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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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nickec

Quote from: TinselKoala on April 12, 2014, 06:45:43 AM
There is _always_ a current/voltage source when you are moving conductors and/or changing reluctance of blocks of metal.

Unless, that is, you are fully surrounded by a proper set of Helmholz coils to cancel out the Earth's geomagnetic field and any other sources of field distortion in your neighborhood.

Don't forget: you can magnetize iron rods, nails, etc. just by lining them up north/south and repeatedly striking them with a hammer or rock.

I agree, though I wonder if Helmholz coils are enough to eliminate interaction with, insane though it may seem, "the rest of the universe".

If matter has an electrical component, as the consensus view insists, then moving matter always moves charge.  A crazy notion, I admit.

When I say "moving matter" I mean relative to other objects, i.e.:  I moved the cube closer to the disk.

When I say "crazy notion" I refer to the phrase "moving matter always moves charge" which could be rewritten as "changing the location of an object is an act that results in moving charge".

I regret any ambiguity my post contains and hope that it communicates something useful.

Farmhand

about the varying inductance thing, I didn't watch Luc's video but I did watch Woopy's.

Umm, I can sit a transformer on the bench not connected to anything except the scope and get over 5 volts from the two FWBR's connected to it's outputs, it is induced by the house currents, however virtually no power can be utilized from it as the voltage just flat lines on loading. Showing these neat effects are all well and good but have their place and are next to useless.

How much power can the setup dissipate in a resister compared to the input power ? That's what it's all about isn't it ? Is it OU ? Can it be ? How ? These are the questions we must ask ourselves.

Does Hopegirl = Zilano after market research.  ;D She adds up the hopefuls does some sums and sees the dollar signs, maybe not.  ;)

I don't see why the hype considering she hasn't shown anything. But I'm not going to bad mouth her, the way I see it now I say good on her, very enterprising and I may do the same thing. Would be easy, get a new name and make some wacky plan, use a Tesla patent and make claims.  Perfect.

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markdansie

Quote from: Farmhand on April 12, 2014, 07:26:31 AM

Does Hopegirl = Zilano after market research.  ;D She adds up the hopefuls does some sums and sees the dollar signs, maybe not.  ;)

I don't see why the hype considering she hasn't shown anything. But I'm not going to bad mouth her, the way I see it now I say good on her, very enterprising and I may do the same thing. Would be easy, get a new name and make some wacky plan, use a Tesla patent and make claims.  Perfect.

Very Enterprising indeed
And the fund raising/ here we go again, from the same Facebook entry "In full transparency I want everyone to know how important it was to me to present the QEG to all of you today. I spent 17 hours on a plane from Taiwan just to be here in person. I spent hours putting together the presentation. And not only was I not paid to speak, but I spent close to $4,000 of my own money to pay for my travel expenses, including an $835 required donation to the event manager for the privilege of getting up there to present to you. Why? Because IT IS THAT IMPORTANT TO ME TO GET THIS INFORMATION TO THE PEOPLE.:"[/font][/size]
So lets see the definition of her own money. (thanks to Doug for compiling this)  Crowd funding (Fix the World and QEG):[/font][/size]
Bring Hope to Australia and New Zealand ($5,290 of $5,000 goal) (gofundme.com)
Help Bring Energy and Hope to Morocco! ($8,062 of $6,460 goal) (gofundme.com)
Fix the World Hope For America Tour ($3,817 of $40,000 goal) (gofundme.com)
Fix the World Org. Help keep us Going! ($25,762 of $50,000 goal) (gofundme.com)
Angels in Boston * HopeGirl & Fix The World Documentary ($2,556 of $2,500 goal) (indiegogo.com)
December Soft Launch Administration Funding ($1,055 of $85,000 goal) (indiegogo.com)
Peoples Fund Administrative Start Up Revised for 2014 ($1,009 of $10,000 goal) (indiegogo.com)
HopeGirl: Fix The World Documentary ($4,781 of $26,990 goal) (indiegogo.com)
Home Quantum Energy Generator ($18,064 of $7,610 goal) (indiegogo.com)
Bring Quantum Generators to the World! ($29,421 of $20,000 goal) (gofundme.com)
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The above excludes direct donations and other sources we do not even know about.[/font][/size]
Kind Regards[/font][/size]
Mark[/font][/size]

MileHigh

Mark:

Well, I thought that she had taken in about $28,000.  She is taking advantage of a modern marketing trick.  It's easier in this day and age to design and manufacture many variations on the same theme.  You give consumers so much choice that you are bound to make a "hit" and make a sale.   Thirty years ago you might have a choice of three basic types of Crest toothpaste and only one version of Tylenol.  Try going into a pharmacy today and see how many types of Crest toothpaste and Tylenol there are.  It's ridiculous in a way, but you increase your revenue and that's all that counts.

So Hopegirl is casting a wide funding net indeed.  "She" is playing the new "market," crowd funding.  It's another very sobering aspect of the whole drama.  I still have a sneaking suspicion that this is just a few bright individuals that put their minds together and "manufactured" this whole scenario.  Crowd funding is the new frontier in easy money and you have to assume that some unscrupulous people are going to go after that revenue pie.  It could very well be a Yellow free energy pitch.

MileHigh

wattsup

@woopy

Try it with a capacitor across the coil and it will do like @gotolucs because the increase in the cap coil will simply produce an electromagnet that will then seize the rotor.

@Gotoluc

As usual your vids (and @woopys') are the standard of excellence always clear and concise.

Of course both of your tests are a type of analog to the QEG but not in the perfect sense where in your MOT usage your plane of passage in much thicker then the 4 passage points in the QEG. Also your coils are right on the receiving core whereas the QEG coils are further away I guess in a effort to pull away any energy production from the passage cores.

In your set-up, there are still many variables to try out. hehehe Always variables.

Some come to mind.

1) Put primary in series with secondary then to the bulbs to see if the primary polarity can be canceled by the secondary polarities if they were in series to eliminate the inductive force on the E core center. You would have to try in both connection modes.

2) Put primaries in series with the secondaries of the other MOT and try the same things.

3) Put pri to pri in series (try both ways) and put both secs in parallel.

4) etc. etc., there may be an unexpected effect there.

So any energy left in the system will produce an electromagnet and the proverbial drag that we see in standard motors is basically the same thing. Any energy increase in the coils, the metal core becomes an electromagnet that will seize the rotor. This will happen in your and in the QEG but in the QEG they put the coils further away, but this distance from the real change point (point of passage) will produce less output so you find yourself again in a situation of give and take. The only difference here is that the impress is a result of a rapid change in inductance and not the north/south passage of a field in a preset inductance. Basically what you have shown is that both actions create the same problem when done mechanically. I cannot say how much promise this would have.

The thing really boils down to effects and there are millions of ways to generate such effects but do they then deserve all the fanfare in terms of furthering development, maybe, but my gut tells me not. 1, 2, 3 years more on this and I cannot see where there could be enough of an advancement to make a clear difference in this outcome.

You see, any idea is always a potential build, potential effect, potential drawbacks, and more or less, potential dead ends, save the fact that any effect observed is a learning experience.

I prefer to do such exercises in my mind where I have enough experience now to draw on before undertaking a project. If it is not clear in the vision function I will not start. This is why, like you, I always do small effects testing. Each one adding to the next in learn mode.

The other problem I see with the QEG is the promise of replication and easy dissemination will not be that easy because the device requires special machining, materials, huge windings so the end cost would be extremely more expensive and therefore, for me, it is not what the world needs. It will be chock full of breakage problems and there is a limit to how much money one should spend to fight against normal phenomena. The QEG as it is now shown will also require years of R&D just to see how the best method of windings instead of that bloated bunch of windings I see right now. If they do not have a coil winding specialist in their midst, they risk wasting years just on that part of device.

Of course if the QEG intention is to attract investment into a device that may be considered in perpetual R&D, then it will attract perpetual funds and create financial OU for those involved. Wow, did I say that?

Now if this idea also tried to integrate some of the ideas @JackH (Jack Hildenbrand) brought forward in terms of mechanically diverting the lines of force during rotation, then maybe there is some promise but the QEG does not have anything in there along those lines. A group would be much better off following the JH or trying to find where his devices are now located (since his passing away) then to work on a QEG. Much more promise.

- Unrelated -

But your very nice I-Coreless MOTs (ICMs) have given me an unrelated idea if you ever go to that route. Ever consider putting two ICMs like you have, just one on top facing the other, that is, both MOTs held together via the primary sides. This would give you a dual MOT with two pris in center and two secs to play around with. hehehe   That would be even more promising I think in terms of havoc creation. It may be (MAY BE) possible to drive one primary, use the second primary as a return to source, then use both secs to drive a load. Of course the variables are many. This would be an avenue of R&D that I would consider as much more interesting and if shown any promise would be a very simple solution for many OU R&Ders.

I am busy with "TPU studies" so not really considering any more build distractions save the fun I have reading some of these threads. Always a treat.

Keep up the good work.

wattsup

PS: I will be opening a new thread on what I consider as being a new idea (many ideas, not many lives) I have that may be interesting for you and others to consider in small scale. hehehe