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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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ACG

The real question is what makes the wires, capacitors, and cores of that thing you call qeg do what is claimed yet when the very same, not value, the same article, is called anything else such as switch reluctance, variable reluctance, or parametric excitation, the device suddenly looses its mysticism?

5,000 Chinese Engineers where art thou?
The elusive U.K. report where art thou?
The switch hopegirl was ready to flip for the qeg 6 months ago where art thou?
Oh, and that fundraiser tooted to demo the PA build qeg where art thou?
The PA build PRE EPOXY ALTERATION where art thou?
Blog post, forum post, website journals, non vacation related updates of the untouchable rock star status James Robitaille where art thou?
The updated open source incorrectly termed in plural forum make shifted together in classic 100% satisfaction guaranteed scam style "documents" where art thou?

ACG

Quote from: truthseeker1313 on October 27, 2014, 02:54:29 PM
great news MileHigh....I am sorry that can could not attract engineers to this forum...they enjoy the Skype chat rooms and I have to say I find them easier to use than this stype of chat forum as well.  Please do not criticize me for my use of the word engineer....I am not an idiot!  All of the engineers that I am working with are qualified...most of them have been schooled in engineering and have converted or come to the realization that lots of what they were taught was manipulated or kept from them.  They are the converted.  And then there are those who are self taught and brilliant.  I look forward to hearing from you and once again I am sorry that I could not attract them to this forum.

The QEG enthusiasts?  yes there are many...but they have chat rooms where they can chat about the QEG.  There is only one technical room that is for qualified engineers and they are selective about who they let in because they are working on the QEG from a technical stand point.  Many of them are in other rooms around the world, but that one room is where they come together to help each other as engineers.  I am not in that room, but I can get you in, if you think  you can contribute to the technical discussion.

With that sort of "open source" who needs the CIA and NSA.

Qeqpocrisy:
Etymology mid first decade of the 2nd millennium. Originating from the PA region of North America.
1. The act or state of being that causes one to contradict one self with every breath taken.
2. Commonly used to solicit finances to buy the same test equipment over and over while on vacation.


Farmhand

Quote from: TinselKoala on October 05, 2014, 05:07:46 PM
Thanks, I'll have to read the whole thing, but at the moment, I see this:

Do you see? These ignoramuses say that my MicroQEG is an "obvious fraud"... yet I stand behind what is in that video 100 percent and can prove that everything in it is real and true. The MicroQEG and all of the associated items that I have demonstrated are 100 percent honest and ANYONE with a few dollars and a soldering iron can prove it for themselves. It is not like the "FTW QEG" where the published materials don't correspond to the actual device, the cost huge and the performance not as stated. My MicroQEG is _more real_ than any FTW QEG!

I told you that this would happen: They have a hard time explaining how my MicroQEG isn't OU, but the FTW QEG is... since the only evidence for any "OU" in either device is the VARs measurement, and I get 27 to one instead of a measly 4 or 10 to one like they do, even in VARs improperly calculated.

Once again, and I hope this gets back to the QEG believers: I challenge you, sidhabo,  thusly. My MicroQEG performs exactly as demonstrated in the videos, there is no "fraud" or fakery involved at all. If anyone doubts this they can build it for themselves for less than the cost of dinner and a movie. If they are so incompetent that they can't build and test it themselves, I will gladly send a unit to you or a qualified third party for testing ON THIS CONDITION. If it fails to perform as shown in the videos, I'll apologize publicly and never darken your door again. But if it DOES perform as shown... which it will, the people who have accused me of fraud will apologize publicly to me, loud and clear, and in addition will pay me my regular consulting fee for three days. Call it an even thousand dollars US. And in either case the tester or the accusing party can keep the unit.

But of course that crowd will never back up their claims with anything real. It is such a joke though, that they see my device and call it fake, but they can't tell that the FTW QEG has no hope of duplicating the WITTS fake QEG without cheating, themselves.


If a thing is a fake or not depends on what is claimed for it.
  ::)

Although my efforts previously were inaccurate I am sure my total efficiency and "VARS to input ratio" beats any of the QEG builds.
For anyone who has the time and working knowledge of resonance obtaining better efficiency and "VARS to input ratios" is child's play.
To me it seems like beating a dead horse to try to talk sense to zealots and cult members.

A challenge to the FTW groups anywhere,
1) post valid measurements of real input to actual useful output efficiencies and,
2) "VAR's produced to input supplied-ratio's".


And either myself or someone else will better them for a fraction of the cost and without serious danger. Or point to where it is
already shown a better result.

If every result obtained by the FTW groups can be easily exceeded, then what is the point to what they are doing ?

Results already shown in this thread far exceed any results obtained so far by any QEG group. Make of it what folks will but
that is the truth, the facts are the facts.

..

TinselKoala

Quote from: truthseeker1313 on October 27, 2014, 02:10:02 PM
(snip)
And, Tinsel, the QEG engineers, all of them, have seen your video and are paying attention and actually are working to implement your ideas....so thank you for your work.  Why not connect and see if you can help even more?

ORLY? Let's do a side-by-side comparison of the FTW QEG design and build, with my microQEG design and build.

Incorporates Tesla patented technology?
FTW QEG: references a patent which does not resemble the QEG at all or any of its components, or its manner of operation, or its results.
TK's microQEG: Incorporates the "Coil for Electromagnets" patent #512,340 in a clear and useful manner.

Resonant system?
FTW QEG: Needs to be _driven_ by a mains-connected motor with associated control circuitry, needs a big bank of expensive HV capacitors, produces ragged "batman" waveforms, etc.
TK's microQEG: Automatically resonates when switched on, no external driving or control circuitry necessary, inexpensive low-voltage caps incorporated in its circuit, produces _pure sine wave_ output waveforms, etc.

OU in VARs?
FTW QEG: claims as much as 10 or 20 times input power in VARs. Noisy and dangerous when being driven by the big motor connected to mains.
microQEG: demonstrates "COP" of 26 to 1 "OU in VARs" on demand. Silent. No connection to mains. Any part may be handled safely while running, except the HV Receptor output unit.

Cost?
FTW QEG: At least five thousand dollars to assemble a "working" unit that doesn't actually work. Needs its own dedicated workspace, a high-current mains connection and two people to move it around.
microQEG: About 20 dollars in parts. Can fit on the corner of a table top. Needs a 12 volt battery to run. Weighs under one kilogram.

Failure modes and hazards?
FTW QEG: Internal shorts caused by improper HV construction, requiring stripping the core (ever tried _unwinding_ a toroid filled with heavy wire? LOL!) and rewinding, and then potting, making any further alteration or removal impossible. Hazards due to unprotected, rapidly rotating mechanical parts. Tiny running clearances maintained by a few bolts through bearing blocks into fragile and flexible frame materials. Big bank of capacitors charged to high voltages. Spark gaps producing nitrogen oxides and ozone. People standing in the plane of the belt drive system with no safety guards whatsoever. Bare HV wiring.
microQEG: You might be able to blow the mosfets apart if you try to run it without the coil connected. If you drop the battery on your foot, it might hurt for a minute.

Instrumentation to "prove OU"?
FTW QEG: according to HopeGirl, you need seventyfive thousand dollars just in test equipment alone.
microQEG: less than 5 hundred dollars worth of analog scopes and probes and meters, stuff that should already be available in the lab of anyone who considers building such a device.

Loads powered?
FTW QEG: a bank of a few light bulbs. Much less power output to the load than is input to the system from the mains.
microQEG: automotive incandescent light bulbs, a DC motor, a bank of neons needing nearly 400 V to light up at all -- and somewhat less power to the loads than is drawn from the supply battery.

I could go on and on. Really, it seems to me that the "smart" thing for your "engineers" to do would be to drop the FTW QEG design and start working _with me_ on making the microQEG system or a variant into a "real OU" system !!

Why would _anyone_ choose the FTW QEG as something worth spending time and money on, when in _every respect_ the microQEG system is already superior?

ETA: And of course... nobody in your camp, Kevin, has given me any public credit at all for my completely self-funded work on the microQEG, except you just now.


TinselKoala

@Farmhand: Great minds think alike!

Really, Kevin, you should also be paying attention to Farmhand. He has gone far beyond the simple microQEG in his builds and researches, and has explored this type of resonant system even more than I have done.