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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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markdansie

Quote from: Jimboot on April 07, 2014, 08:10:44 PM
Is there any secret sauce here? Apart from the lack of hard data on performance Is there anything we don't know about construction or operation? They seem to have been fairly open about that. I've spoken to a couple of others who have said they are getting direct help via skype on their replications.
The end result maybe that it does not work as advertised but I'm not seeing anything hidden or dishonest here.
Then why declare it is real, and all the spin that goes with it.
Kind regards
PS I know others far more worthy than this


e2matrix

Quote from: MileHigh on April 07, 2014, 07:31:39 PM
I am sorry but I think there are going to be a lot of long faces and HopeGirl is going to become HeatGirl.  These "big coil and secret sauce" deals come around every year like clockwork.

The thing about the relatively new phenomenon of crowd funding is a lot of the deals call for zero accountability from the recipients of the money.  It would not be hard at all to "script" out this whole thing and walk away with your cash bomb and divvy up say two-thirds of the money with your team.
Well they have made $28,595 with crowd funding so far.   Maybe enough for their team fly to Taiwan, pay for food and accommodations and the cost of their initial unit they've spent 6 months building (but little or nothing for their labor).   Sorry you think so low of people and a career engineer no less.   I cannot imagine any way this is going to make them rich with the plans they have laid out.   Except maybe rich in Karma if it all works out to give those who really need energy just to have clean water and heat in the freezing cold.   

MileHigh

My bad because I did not do my due diligence and check on how much they raised.  I had read about a few other crowd funding campaigns where they raised hundreds of thousands of dollars.  Neil Young just raised a fortune for his high definition audio player.  I assumed that they had raised a few hundred thousand dollars.  (I see it's in the $28K range now (typo?), not just a few thousand.)

On topic, here is a quote from the QED forum:

http://be-do.com/index.php/en/forum/qeg-news/157-update-april-7-qeg-team-in-taiwan

QuoteFrom James from the FTW QEG team in Taiwan:

Hello All, This is James. just wanted to post an update to let you know how we made out with resolving the insulation issue... It was another amazing day! As we said, yesterday we stripped all the wire off the two primary coils to prepare for replacing the insulation and rewinding. Today our host took us to a winding company here in Taiwan that also specializes in developing insulation systems.

This is one of the top 3 companies in the country, and one of the best in Asia (our host has amazing connections). They build coils for some of the biggest names in the world, and we had the entire design team in the conference room! It was amazing to watch their faces as we began to explain what the QEG is and how it works! (we get that all the time).

So they were intrigued and excited, and agreed  to take on the repair. They will also build up Taiwan's second (bare) core with their improved insulation system from the bare core up. They confirmed almost immediately that what was needed was interlayer insulation to prevent this happening again, and to ruggedize the design.

So they will add mylar interlayer insulation and rewind the two primary coils on the first core, and they say they can complete it by end of work day tomorrow. We'll go pick it back up tomorrow evening and put it back together wednesday morning, to resume tuning and testing.

This still is my business and I can tell you, in my opinion, that this whole story is not real sounding at all.  The only way you could get a bunch of engineers in a room is if you were doing real volume business, like you were buying 20,000 typical small transformers a month (and even that is more or less chump change).  "We had the entire design team in the conference room."  One of the few times I use this: ROTFLMAO

MileHigh


Jimboot

Quote from: markdansie on April 07, 2014, 09:16:21 PM
Then why declare it is real, and all the spin that goes with it.
Kind regards
PS I know others far more worthy than this


My take on it is that they are idealists that honestly believe they have something that is wondrous for humanity and are doing all they can to get it out there including the spin. I agree with you that the videos and rhetoric make me roll my eyes and I am waiting for the next vid to have unicorns & rainbows.
However I don't think they are dishonest.
If you know others far more worthy lets promote the crap out of them :)