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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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wattsup

@F_Brown

Thanks for your three videos on the Rodin. Also the little discussion of black holes is interesting. I can provide you with my own take on black holes of which I do not consider a Rodin to be anywhere near this type of level.

My take on the black holes, universe thing can be found here in case there is interest.
http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Wattsups%27%20stuff/theoreticals/

Your description of the two conductor Rodin, pulse one tank the other is not what I have in mind.  Once the Rodin is in place over an alternator stator, it will be pulsed to the resonance of the stator. This is where I have never seen a Rodin being used. The frequency will be much higher since of course the Rodin will not be able to work at the low rotary alternator frequencies that have drag pushing the effect to high amperage. This would be virtually initiated so lighter impress but higher frequency to try and push the effect.

Eventually I will build this and test it out.

@MH

All coils are useless if you don't find the good mix. Your negativity is not justified.

wattsup

F_Brown

Quote from: MileHigh on April 18, 2014, 04:14:08 PM
F_Brown,

Your clips are very nicely done.  Note that Marko Rodin and the QEG team make similar claims that quantum or some kind of zero point energy enters the coil.  There is a clip from a few years ago where Marko rather smugly claims that his coil will solve the world's energy problems.  How long have people been playing with Rodin coils now, perhaps five or more years?


Marko states that the black hole formed in the center of the coil radiates photons, and all that one has to do to capture energy from the coil is to put photocells around the center of it to receive the emitted photons.  The trouble with Marko is that he refuses to learn traditional science as understood by credentialed scientists.   On the other hand credentialed scientists that have studied Marko's documents, state that what he presents is more like numerology or combinatorics rather than actual physics.  So, there is this chasm in communication between Marko and trained scientists that Marko has now given up all attempts at trying to cross because trained scientists have simply shown themselves time and time again to be incapable of understanding the validity and applicability of his vortex based mathematics.

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Suppose you do a real "Black Box" experiment.  You put a Rodin coil inside a shoe box and a regular cylindrical coil inside another shoe box.  Each box has two terminal posts.  How do you check if what's in the shoe box is a regular coil or a Rodin coil?

The answer is that you can't, they both will behave approximately the same.  And therein lies the problem with the Rodin coil.  It's a farce.  Plus I bet you that Marko Rodin can't even tell you how a coil actually works.  When people do the "speaker" test and put a magnet on top of the coil to turn it into a speaker when they excite the coil, they are demonstrating something that has absolutely nothing to do with the coil itself.


I would expect if one used a hall sensor to map out to a sufficient degree of detail the magnetic field of a Rodin coil, a solenoid coil, and a toroidal coil all built with the same diameter and turns, that differentiating which coil was in the box by the magnetic field emitted from it would probable be possible.

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Transformers for low frequency power applications or for high frequency radio and signal processing applications have been around for a long time.  If there was some sort of "magic secret sauce" it would have been found about 100 years ago.  It would not have been the WITTS group or the QEG group that "discovered" something.

I read that HopeGirl, Naima Feagin, is married to the lead engineer on the project, James Robitaille.  So between "Fix the World" and the QEG and the crowd funding and all the different variations thereof, don't be surprised if there are more than 100 "Donate" buttons that go into their portfolio of Paypal accounts.  That sounds like a two-year paid vacation in the making to me.

If the main claim is that when the QEG is at resonance that quantum energy is magically injected into the core then it won't happen.  A resonating LC circuit and the real quantum energy that physicists research and study have nothing to do with each other.

MileHigh

People seem to be buying delusions and lies like hotcakes these days, while truth is all too often ignored and ever more frequently prosecuted.

F_Brown

Quote from: wattsup on April 18, 2014, 05:38:16 PM
@F_Brown

Thanks for your three videos on the Rodin. Also the little discussion of black holes is interesting. I can provide you with my own take on black holes of which I do not consider a Rodin to be anywhere near this type of level.

My take on the black holes, universe thing can be found here in case there is interest.
http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Wattsups%27%20stuff/theoreticals/

Your description of the two conductor Rodin, pulse one tank the other is not what I have in mind.  Once the Rodin is in place over an alternator stator, it will be pulsed to the resonance of the stator. This is where I have never seen a Rodin being used. The frequency will be much higher since of course the Rodin will not be able to work at the low rotary alternator frequencies that have drag pushing the effect to high amperage. This would be virtually initiated so lighter impress but higher frequency to try and push the effect.

Eventually I will build this and test it out.

wattsup

There have been people exploring Rodin coil to Rodin coil transfer of signals and energy.  The I think the IBM group said it might have some potential for use as an antenna for high frequency stuff.  That report was on the web, although one really has to hunt for it.  I have yet to look into such things.  Alas, I also think I was far from creating a bench-top black hole by putting a couple of amps through a hundred or so turns of thin wire.  I do want to build a larger coil with multiple layers of 12 or 10 gauge wire and put some significant power into one, however there are so many other things work on that I find the time and expense that would take to be of low priority, maybe someday.

MileHigh

F_Brown:

It's almost funny with Marko talking about a black hole forming at the center of his coil.  It's because black holes do radiate high-energy photons when mass is sucked into them.  Has Marko done the photocell experiment?  Is he talking about a "ring" black hole inside the donut or is he talking about a point black hole at the very center of the donut I wonder.

I am assuming that you are aware of what a black hole is.  How Marko can utter that nonsense with a straight face or how people can listen to him state that with straight faces is beyond me.

I don't expect that Marko will explain how his nano black holes mysteriously appear and where all the extra mass suddenly comes from.  Hey, it might be a million tons of mass that forms the ring inside the donut.  I am surprised that he hasn't sucked himself out of existence and gone out in a blaze of x-ray and gamma ray photon glory.

The chasm is really really wide.  lol

It may indeed be possible to see differences in the magnetic field pattern.  But normally when you are discussing the energy dynamics of a coil, you talk about the electrical properties of a two-terminal device.  You will be able to see different two-terminal behaviour but both behaviours will look like inductors.  Something like observing a 200 millihenry inductor in one shoe box and a 214 millihenry inductor in the other shoe box.  In other words, no tangible difference between the two.

Delusions, indeed.  Let's see how Naima and James manage the next six months in their lives.  I am guessing that they will "go dark" and disappear from the Internet.  Of course the conspiracy theorists will have their own explanation for that.

MileHigh

F_Brown

Marko can say that stuff with a straight face because he's never studied physics.  He simple lacks the information required for him to realize just how ridiculous his statements sound to people who have studied physics.  Anyway, it's kind of amusing how the twisted structure of the magnetic field in the center of the coil might possibly be able to have some effect on the fabric of space time, if--and this is a big if--it were sufficient intense.  Apparently the formation of this twisted magnetic field in the center of the coil, that's been called a vortex, has been reasonably shown to occur, although this is quite different from the vortices that Marko talks about forming along the sheer lines of the windings.  Anyway, just how intense would it need to be to form a pseudo black hole, or if it even could, who knows?  I expect though, how ever intense that is, it will remain beyond the means of my workshop.

If this QEG proves to be a dud, I've been wondering what the Taiwanese are going to do to them.  They're kind of stuck there until they let them out. 

Bruce Depalma got people to spend millions to build ever bigger versions of his machine, each and every one of which failed to operate over-unity.  Joseph Neuman went on and on about his machine for decades without ever proving over-unity.  Oh well...