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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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MileHigh

Dieter,

If you are insulting people like me that exercise our critical thinking skills and call them "pseudohumans" then you have a problem.  This is not Oz, this is not Middle Earth, this is real life.  Things actually have to work in real life and people have to explain how they work.

Many people turn on their high-definition LED/LCD TV and they don't have the slightest clue how it works.  You could tell them a completely ridiculous explanation for how the hardware inside the TV works and they might believe you.

Some people turn on their high-definition LED/LCD TV and they have a reasonably good understanding of how the hardware and software inside the TV works.

Obviously, some people are at a disadvantage as compared other people when it comes to high-definition LED/LED TVs.  They might believe a crazy story about the TV.  A story crazy enough to make them look like fools without even realizing it.

So you think about that before you start labeling people as "pseudohumans."

MileHigh

pmgr

Quote from: F_Brown on April 22, 2014, 06:58:17 PM
At the moment I am preparing an animation of the flux density during a full rotation of the armature.

@F_Brown and @shinz62

Glad to see you do some FEMM simulations as this is fundamental to understanding how the device functions. With respect to an animation, I did one a short while back and posted it at the energetic forum. I had to shrink the animation down in size (due to file size limitations), but it is a real size simulation in FEMM. I have attached it to this post. Let me know if you wish me to animate anything else in particular.

With respect to modeling circuits in FEMM, that is not possible. You will have to make a work around outside of FEMM for that. You can do it with SPICE or write some code yourself (which is what I did). In another post of energetic forum, I posted some circuit simulation results as well. It appears this is the more dedicated QEG thread for that topic, so I have attached my results below to keep the record complete. I am currently researching if I can simulate a stable steady state system from which I can calculate power out and also energy consumed by force on the rotor from the coils (I have already confirmed that this is NOT a Lenz less case where there is no force on the rotor by the coils). Under very special conditions, you can make Lenz go away; not really go away, but have it average out to zero over one rotation. However I haven't been able to proof this with my simulations.

Anyway, here are my initial findings:

1. The system is started up by parametric excitation of the inductance of the primary coils. Quite a few links have been posted in this thread about parametric excitation, so if you wish know what that is all about, read some of those papers (a lot of them were written in the 1930s).

2. Starting up the system is no magic. It can all be explained with normal electrical equations. Current noise (e.g. a pA in my simulations) in the coils will grow to about a few 100mA in the primary coils and the voltages associated with that run in the kV range. In my simulations I have seen voltages oscillate with magnitudes of 1kV to 20kV depending on system parameters that you set (inductances, modulation index of inductances, coil resistances, etc.). The capacitance sets the electrical resonance frequency. Tuning the system (electrically and mechanically), it is very easy to get high voltage spikes that can burn out the isolation on the coils (which is what happened in Taiwan). From my simulations, I find typical stable voltages for the primary coils around 2kV-5kV range. The secondary coils run at a factor Nsec/Nprim = 350/3100 = 0.113 lower than that, so in the couple of 100 volt range.

3. The humming that was witnessed is most likely caused by the enormous flux densities in the transformer core and due to the fact that the core is laminated. A normal transformer also hums. Vibrations occur when the rotor closes in to the core or moves away from it AND a flux is going from core through rotor back to core.

4. Parametric excitation can occur at multiple frequencies. Typically, the inductance is modulated at a frequency of 2v (v= Greek nu) while the electrical resonance is set at f = n*v/2 with n an integer. It is easiest to find a stable region when the electrical resonance is set at the smallest n number (n=1). In this particular case, the rotor runs at frequency v and the inductance is modulated at 4v, so the electrical resonance should be preferably set at 2v. In this case it appears the resonance starts occurring at a rotor speed of 1500rpm (about 25 Hz), so inductance is modulated at 100Hz. James indicates the output frequency is around 400Hz, which would mean he set the electrical frequency at a multiplier of n=8.

5. The second set of coils is basically a copy of the first set of coils and they perform a similar role. I hope to discuss this in more detail later.

I have attached a few figures that show how the high voltage develops in the primary coils. You have to pick the parameters right to get a steady state solution. It is very easy for the voltage to go out of bound (which would fry the coils due to high voltage arcing).

The image QEG_StartUp.jpg shows how the resonance starts from 1pA of noise in the primary coils.

The image QEG_Transient.jpg shows the transient behavior from startup to steady state. You can see the voltage initially overshoot to over 4kV, then settle down to about 2.8kV.

The image QEG_SteadyState.jpg show the steady state in detail: as explained before the inductance is modulated at 4v (4x per rotation). The electrical resonance frequency is tuned to 2v with the capacitance. Both the voltage and current oscillate at 2v (50Hz). Note that the capacitance can be choosen so as to resonate at a higher harmonic (e.g. in James' case n=8).

But now comes the questionable part of all of the above.

The problem with parametric excitation is that it is very hard to get any kind of power out of the system without destroying the resonance condition. The energy in the primary system runs about a 2-3 joules. Energy for each of the elements is 1/2L*i*i for the coils, 1/2C*V*V for the capacitor and power loss is R*i*i in the coil resistance. All these translate to about 125W total in the coil and capacitor together and about 3W loss in the coil resistance.

So the question now remains if it is possible to extract energy from this parametric system without destroying the resonance...

Enjoy! :)   PmgR
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Quote from: dieter on April 22, 2014, 09:51:05 PM
How comes the naysayers have completely taken over this thread?


.. But this naysayer dominance is unbearable.

Well, my parents always taught me to shut my mouth, watch and learn and only write only when necessary and when it makes a difference in relaying truth. There are some people here with mile high egos who cannot stop talking, always trying so very hard to try impress others with their perceived 'knowledge' . Truth is, it's almost always the opposite. But then, this is a public forum, anyone who can type can participate. Not a lot of skill required, actually


MileHigh

Quote from: chrisC on April 22, 2014, 11:14:11 PM
Well, my parents always taught me to shut my mouth, watch and learn and only write only when necessary and when it makes a difference in relaying truth. There are some people here with mile high egos who cannot stop talking, always trying so very hard to try impress others with their perceived 'knowledge' . Truth is, it's almost always the opposite. But then, this is a public forum, anyone who can type can participate. Not a lot of skill required, actually

Well, ChrisC, I guess that you did not learn from your parents at all.  If they are still with us on this Earth they would be pained to see this type of behaviour from you.

MileHigh

MarkE

Quote from: dieter on April 22, 2014, 09:51:05 PM
How comes the naysayers have completely taken over this thread?


I don't know if the QEG works and what those people (3) are doing with the 100 grand fundrising cash, but one thing I know for sure:


There are many professional desinformation agents out there, making more than a 100k each one each year, only by badmouthing in the internet. Taxmoney, or from energy industrial complex, we pay it. They are getting emotional from mentioning the latest superiour weapons of the US, good patriots. Economical hitmen maybe, to secure "national security".


After investing so much in the control of oil, free energy would be rather unhandy, right?


Joe Average is my buddy, we are all Joe Average, worldwide, except for those pseudohumans.


I need an ignore button.


Nothing's for granted and time will tell what's the deal with the QEG. But this naysayer dominance is unbearable.
Have the people promoting the QEG shown any strong evidence that it can work, or that it does?  If the answer is yes, then skeptics have little room to argue.  If the answer is no, then I think the problem is with promoters long on promises and short on supporting facts.