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Overunity Machines Forum



Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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pmgr

@Ariovaldo

A summary here:

1. Inductance varies from 15H at lowest to 20H at highest value (maybe a little higher since it is instrument limilt). Let's assume a mean value of maybe 17.5H.
2. Tuned capacitance is 0.156uF
3. This translates to a tank circuit resonance of 1/(2*pi*sqrt(L*C) = 96.325Hz
4. Parametric excitation occurs at 4x the rotor speed while the tank resonance occurs at 2x the rotor speed
5. Hence the rotor is most likely running around 48Hz, or 2880rpm. Can you confirm this Ariovaldo? If not, e.g. the rotor is running at 24Hz (1440rpm), it means you are running the tank circuit at the second harmonic (which is less efficient) and should increase the capacitance by a factor of 4 to 0.624uF.
6. Secondary output oscillates at twice the primary frequency so should be around 2*96.325 = 193Hz, which is what you measured.

So it appears you are driving the machine correctly if you can confirm the motor runs at 2880rpm. If not, adjust your capacitance as stated in 5. above.

Let's take a look at the secondary load:

1. 60W light bulb. Each light bulb (assuming they are rated for 120V), will have a resistance of 240ohms and can carry a current of 0.5A.
2. 8x 60W light bulb in parallel is equivalent to a secondary load of 30 Ohms and should draw a current of 4A when fully lit.
3. From your measurement, eight bulbs only draw about 1.9amps, so about 0.25amps per bulb.

What you should try is to load the secondaries more (less resistance) by adding another 8 bulbs in parallel. This will decrease the secondary resistance to 15ohms and should bump the current up hopefully closer to 0.5A per bulb. The voltage may drop a little, but that's OK. At least you won't burn out any bulbs.

If you can get 16 bulbs to fully light, that would be 16x 60W is 960Watts.

Then let's see what the input power to the motor does. Try to confirm its RPMs as well.

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Quote from: pmgr on May 11, 2014, 02:31:36 PM
@F_Brown:

Take a look at the table here:

http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm

AWG20 is listed at 0.8128mm diameter (or 0.5153 mm^2 area) and the maximum amps for chassis wiring (DC) is listed as 11 Amps. Maximum amps for power transmission is 1.5A, or for AWG20 with 0.5153 mm^2 area, 2.9A/mm^2. This is close to your number of 3A/mm^2. Question remains what frequency this 1.5A number that is stated in the table applies to? 60Hz? 27kHz? Or wired in air (chassis) or in a bundle (power transmission).

Same question for the QEG. The secondaries run at 200Hz. Most likely AWG20 can carry amps somewhere in between 1.5A and 11A depending how tightly packed the coils and what frequency it is run at?

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My reference material used the 3A/mm^2 figure for both EI core 60Hz power amps and EI core audio output transformers, which would be considered to cover at best -3db at 30Hz - 30kHz.

F_Brown

I completed a mulit-dimensional interpolation table for SPICE simulation of the QEG inductance based the data generated by the FEMM analysis, and it seems to have passed it's sanity check.

The first image was created by stepping through the current and angle in SPICE as the FEMM analysis did, the y axis represent henries, and the x axis represents amps.  The second image is the reference from the FEMM analysis.
 

F_Brown

Quote from: pmgr on May 11, 2014, 03:16:14 PM

What you should try is to load the secondaries more (less resistance) by adding another 8 bulbs in parallel. This will decrease the secondary resistance to 15ohms and should bump the current up hopefully closer to 0.5A per bulb. The voltage may drop a little, but that's OK. At least you won't burn out any bulbs.

If you can get 16 bulbs to fully light, that would be 16x 60W is 960Watts.

Then let's see what the input power to the motor does. Try to confirm its RPMs as well.


The QEG has an odd behavior of maintaining a somewhat constant current into resistive loads.  In simulation I have noticed that to get more power dissipated in a resistive load, I had to to increase the resistance of the load rather than decrease it. 

So, I would recommend putting bulbs in series rather than parallel and see what happens.

ariovaldo

Quote from: F_Brown on May 11, 2014, 07:40:21 PM
The QEG has an odd behavior of maintaining a somewhat constant current into resistive loads.  In simulation I have noticed that to get more power dissipated in a resistive load, I had to to increase the resistance of the load rather than decrease it. 

So, I would recommend putting bulbs in series rather than parallel and see what happens.


I will try, but I need install a spark gap across the phases to avoid sparks when I start the generator. Also I need to play a little bit more with the frequency ( capacitors X speed )


Cheers


Ariovaldo