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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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MarkE

Quote from: chrisC on May 12, 2014, 04:01:49 PM
@MarkE
Personally, I think HopeGirl has no business writing about technical stuff she does not understand herself and making herself look real silly with all the written promises of a working device. No professional organization would ever do something like that to attract legions of trigger happy lawyers.  That said, James R worked his butts off trying to reproduce what may seemed to be a working WITTs device. I believe he is missing some pieces not disclosed by T.T - the difference between O.U and not. Wait and see.
As to the cheap shots angled at FTW for defrauding people so they can have an exotic holiday afar? Seriously, I don't equate exotic holidays with getting stomach flu, living with flies and donkeys. Get real. FTW may be naive in the way they have chosen to do things their own way but that's their choice.
cheers
chrisC
Starting with the established fraud WITTS never boded well.  The claimants have all the time in the world until they declare that they actually have something.  They set the timeline.  FTW came.  FTW declared.  FTW has shown their declarations were absolutely false.  FTW continues to lie.  When someone lies to get money or something else of value, and knows that they are lying, that is fraud.  There is nothing that FTW can point to that justifies their false claims of possessing working free energy generators.  There is nothing that justifies their attempts to sell their "expertise" for $300. per hour.    For the money that we know they have collected a food bank could have fed 100 needy families for a year.

chrisC

Quote from: MarkE on May 12, 2014, 04:52:48 PM
Starting with the established fraud WITTS never boded well.  The claimants have all the time in the world until they declare that they actually have something.  They set the timeline.  FTW came.  FTW declared.  FTW has shown their declarations were absolutely false.  FTW continues to lie.  When someone lies to get money or something else of value, and knows that they are lying, that is fraud.  There is nothing that FTW can point to that justifies their false claims of possessing working free energy generators.  There is nothing that justifies their attempts to sell their "expertise" for $300. per hour.    For the money that we know they have collected a food bank could have fed 100 needy families for a year.


MarkE: In the same way, as you say  "no one forces you to read my post...", no one forces anyone to contribute to FTW cause. We're all adults and quite capable of making decisions for ourselves. We are all innocent until proven guilty. Same with FTW. Same as Witts. If Witts have something that really works and chose to sell their knowledge through repeated classes, that's their business. Right? There are engineers and others that vouched for the authenticity of Witts O.U devices powering their Armish settlements on YouTube. You can either believe or treat them as loonies. I happen to believe T.T is a true man of faith and is answerable to God for his actions and will leave it as fact he has a O.U device. The fact we can't reproduce it does not mean he's a fraud. He does differently from you and me.
Until this crowd is able to reproduce a working device, bad mouthing is not the solution. Save your time and energy for more worthwhile causes.
cheers,
chrisC

MileHigh

Indeed, ChrisC, bad mouthing is not the solution.

People like MarkE, myself, and others make comments on the evidence that we have seen presented so far.  We have a right to do that, just like people who disagree and have differing opinions have the same rights.  When you work to suppress that right, then you are a "bad guy" no matter what side of the fence you are on.

For this narrative, analyzing the "story" is a very important part of the picture.  There are so many signs already.  For example, they make references to two different Tesla patents, and neither one has a direct relationship to the QEG.  These things are staring people in the face and if they want to ignore them so be it.  It's worthwhile stating just the same, it's evidence that questions their credibility.

Take the example of the "30 engineers" in Morocco.  In my mind I think this:  An engineer is approached by a friend about the QEG.  The next thing the engineer would do is go online and do searching and reading.  After an hour, it's highly doubtful that any engineer would make himself available for this project.  There is something amiss.  Beyond that, what pray tell are 30 engineers doing in Morocco?  That in and of itself does not even make sense.  It's essentially impossible to have 30 engineers working on the QEG.  Look at James' last report about what he was doing.  Do you smell the work of 30 engineers when you read his report?  Why pray tell go to a remote part of Morocco to assemble a QEG from scratch?  Why not build one in your own lab, get it working, then go to Morocco with a small team and a bill of materials and then take it apart and put it back together and show them how it works?  Instead you have what sounds like Woodstock III with a room crammed with people sleeping on the floor.

If you have enough charisma and a good story and get lucky you can pull these things off.  You can set up a social peer pressure from the group dynamic and the ambient environment to create your own temporary reality.  Look at the example of Yildiz in that university setting a few years back presumably in a room with many educated people around and nobody said anything.

If I was an engineer in Morocco, by this point I would be challenging my peers to look at this rationally.  You can't possibly have 30 engineers on board with this project unless they are a gathering of engineers on the extreme fringe.  I have looked at free energy propositions for years now, and the QEG is a typical weak-ass proposition that has no legs at all.  What's happening now is exactly what would be happening if their proposition was not real.  It's fitting the pattern like a glove.

Myself and others care about the people being hurt by this, and by the principle involved.  People will be hurt financially, and some of the New Agers that really bought into this are going to be hurt emotionally by this.

MileHigh

F_Brown

Well, here are some results.  Although instead of being more realistic, I think it actually turned out less realistic in some ways.

First off, the resonance at 0.5 times drive frequency has disappeared in this model and now the tanks oscillates at 2.0 times the drive frequency which is 1.6 kHz..  I lack a clue as to why at this time.

Also at my initial attempt to run the model, it went into oscillations in the 500MHz to several GHz range.  Apparently the interaction between the induction table and the primary current feedback is extremely sensitive.  I finally got the model to run without HF oscillations by introducing some damping features into the circuit.  I put an RC network on the end of the table output and added a small choke into the primary circuit.  These two features allow the model to run without the parasitic oscillations. 

Additionally the wave form in the primary circuit has taken on a very asymmetric shape.  I lack a clue about why that happened too.

Yet more is that the model runs extremely slow.  It take nearly 10 minutes to simulate 100 rotor revolutions in 64ms, and there is an absence of an exponential build up of voltage and current.  This model starts with full voltage and current abruptly. 
 
Here's some images and test run results(note that the results text file link is in between the first and second images and is quite small):

I'd like to see some scope shots of the primary wave forms in some replications to compare with this.  One thing that did turn out as I expected is that the cogging torque is asymmetrical, meaning that there is a calculable difference between the amount of torque when the rotor is moving toward the poles and when the rotor is moving away from the poles.  This supports my view that it is cogging torque that is the fundamental mechanism loading the system driving the QEG.

One other interesting thing is that in this model there is a small DC current flow in one direction around the primary circuit.  I suspect that is present in the replications too.

MarkE