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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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Angelic

Is there anyway to stabilize and maintain the resonance so this could be possible?

PCB

@MileHigh
QuoteThe reason the power companies don't like reactive loads is they draw extra current and that heats all of the distribution transformers up needlessly.  Extra power is lost in the transformers and the wires for nothing.  It also makes the load on the generators in the generating station irregular, and they don't want that.  You don't want energy from reactive loads circulating all over the electrical grid, it's simply not good.  I am not an expert on this stuff (power distribution and how they balance the grid), so these points are just about the general principles at play.


I studied the power grid in gory detail as part of my degree, but that was many moon ago. I think the main thing is if you have inductive loads, like motors or other devices with none unit power factor like refrigerators, you have to balance that out somehow else the voltage will not stay at its nominal value say 240V (vector addition thing). They can do this several ways. You can add capacitance to the grid. In the UK there is a parallel set of transmission lines running the length of the county. They can switch those into the network to add capacitance. Another way is for some power plants to generate reactive power. They use hydro generation in Wales to produce reactive power at key times when its needed. They can turn it on and off quickly as required. The power grid is actually surprising complicated. Don't now how they manage things in the US.

PCB

@MileHigh
QuoteThere are a handful of QEG clips out there where they achieve resonance and the light bulb array lights up.  You notice in all the clips when the light bulbs light up the QEG makes a groaning sound.  That groaning sound is parts in the QEG responding to the new internal mechanical stress it is experiencing because of the back torque.  There is a decent chance the individual arms of the rotor are vibrating like tuning forks because of this stress.  That might be just one component in the groaning sound, if it is happening at all.  No matter what is actually happening to create the groaning sound, the groaning sound itself is due to mechanical stresses in the QEG.
I think that we have all forgot that the extra energy in the QEG was supposed to be coming from the mechanical vibration of the laminations, it was advertised as an electro-mechanical device. There are a bunch of Youtube videos that show voltage pikes resulting from tapping a transformer for example.

MarkE

Quote from: PCB on June 01, 2014, 09:08:00 PM
@MileHigh

I studied the power grid in gory detail as part of my degree, but that was many moon ago. I think the main thing is if you have inductive loads, like motors or other devices with none unit power factor like refrigerators, you have to balance that out somehow else the voltage will not stay at its nominal value say 240V (vector addition thing). They can do this several ways. You can add capacitance to the grid. In the UK there is a parallel set of transmission lines running the length of the county. They can switch those into the network to add capacitance. Another way is for some power plants to generate reactive power. They use hydro generation in Wales to produce reactive power at key times when its needed. They can turn it on and off quickly as required. The power grid is actually surprising complicated. Don't now how they manage things in the US.
No, the problem is as MileHigh states it.  Suppose you have a 0.1 PowerFactor, the VA product is basically 10X the real power.  The 10X current flows back and forth between the reactive load and the power company's equipment heating everything along the way.  Many power utilities bill industrial customers extra for low power factor loads and/or require them to install power factor correctors.

PCB

Quote from: MarkE on June 01, 2014, 11:22:15 PM
@MarkE


No, the problem is as MileHigh states it.  Suppose you have a 0.1 PowerFactor, the VA product is basically 10X the real power.  The 10X current flows back and forth between the reactive load and the power company's equipment heating everything along the way.  Many power utilities bill industrial customers extra for low power factor loads and/or require them to install power factor correctors.


NO THE PROBLEM IS YOU NEED REACTIVE POWER IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN VOLTAGE LEVELS ON THE GRID. You missed the point entirely. You can not delivery real power with out reactive power. Industrial users are not billed in Watts but VA (apparent power) . Industrial users are incentivized to correct their power factor else they pay more like you say. Home users do not get penalized but with millions of homes with refrigeraters and other inductive loads this places an aggregated  burden on the grid system.  You might want to read up on it some time before saying I'm wrong! At least think before going off half cocked. But I see from the multitude of posts you make that that is not your style. 


Here's a place you might like to start.


http://www2.nationalgrid.com/uk/services/balancing-services/reactive-power-services/