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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: ariovaldo on June 08, 2014, 04:32:56 PM

I don't say that is difficult...I use to work with 7000 hp gearboxes and when we take it apart, to put it back needs adjust to get good contact in the flanks and the clearance right.


Now, trying to answer yours questions...
-The concentricity of the 4 stator pole piece arcs and the rotor bearing mounts and rotor faces.
The concentric are very good. I got tell: It is a beautiful machine. The rotor and the stator was well done.

-The rotor symmetry and balance.
No balance problem. I put the SKF vibration monitor and it was in a very good range..

-The rotor shaft bearing mounts.
This is one problem that I'm having...That shaft was made using one " non"  reliable lathe ( my fault), so it is a little bit smaller in diameter that was suppose to be.


-Checking clearance after assembly.
I don't use to check. When I'm putting it together, I use to put the rotor in the lower position, making it touch the stator, after that put up position and bring half way down. Repeat the procedure for the side

-Thermal expansion.
I don't think that is happening in this system so far, since I din't run long enough to have the system hot..Can be a problem...

-Vibration when resonance is attained.
The vibration can be felt in low speed, but this issue is not something that is calling my attention so far.

-Results of an inevitable rotor crash.
That can happen in a long run and when we don't use the right material and as washers for example. Also we need to have right torque and etc..


The difficulties that I'm facing is inherent a system like that, where we have a small clearance, high speed, plastic as support and nothing to lock in the right position.


I hope this can help.


Cheers


Ariovaldo

Thanks for answering the points. It would appear that having the proper, accurate, laser-cut laminations is going to be critical for any builders if they want to get this kind of tight clearance. I'm surprised at the accuracy, frankly. With that kind of care and precision taken with the laminations, it's surprising that the rest of the QEG design is so flaky.

So, if you, or someone else, did have a rotor crash, do you think it would cause unrepairable damage to rotor/stator laminations, bearing mount holes, etc? I can envision a couple loose fasteners at the bearing mounts allowing the shaft to drift over a bit, and then a lot of banging and jumping about....
:'(


ariovaldo

Quote from: TinselKoala on June 08, 2014, 06:09:25 PM
Thanks for answering the points. It would appear that having the proper, accurate, laser-cut laminations is going to be critical for any builders if they want to get this kind of tight clearance. I'm surprised at the accuracy, frankly. With that kind of care and precision taken with the laminations, it's surprising that the rest of the QEG design is so flaky.

So, if you, or someone else, did have a rotor crash, do you think it would cause unrepairable damage to rotor/stator laminations, bearing mount holes, etc? I can envision a couple loose fasteners at the bearing mounts allowing the shaft to drift over a bit, and then a lot of banging and jumping about....
:'(


In my experience in system like that, several crashes can be bad. Just a couple can be reparable...Also, depend of flywheel and belt tightness. Anyhow, crashes are not good, bend the shaft, smash the lamination and so one. 

PIH123

I think there may be needless over anylizing the rotor / stator gap.

According to this be-do (official) video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L640w3k3xdA

at 2:24 James states that the bearing mounting holes can be drilled "larger" to provide some adjustability.
That and the lack of lock nuts / washers as TK alluded to should do the trick (or not).

But it probably will be ok since at 2:55 he clarifies that they were drilled by eye, so again, probably ok (or maybe not).

Angelic

No, the thickness of three sheets of paper as MH stated is very relevant to the operation of the QEG. And drilling the holes larger  adds to the adjust ability, it also would add to the fail ability.   

MileHigh

Yes I think the gap may have been over-analyzed, what can you do.  Perhaps one can say it's better to throw too many words at an issue as compared to near-zero words on the other forums.  The root cause for the discussion is the continuous hyperbole and ridiculous misrepresentation of what has transpired in the few technical clips put up by the Fix the World group, and their overall outrageous claims.

Let me touch on the "Tesla issue" for a second.  This issue goes beyond the FTW group, you read similar claims made on the forums for various Tesla patents for what appear to me to be early designs for motors and generators.

I don't read all of Tesla's patents, but I have read a few.  Nonetheless, let me put forward a viewpoint.

Tesla worked with Westinghouse to do the Niagara Falls power dam and develop all of the first-generation AC electrical distribution technology and hardware.  FTW is referencing two Tesla patents that on just a glance at the drawings look like early designs for AC motors, or AC generators, or perhaps generic motor-generators.  In the real world there are various different types of motors and generators using different architectures, both for AC and DC hardware.  I believe that Tesla did some preliminary designs and then patented them.

The reason for Tesla applying for patents for this kind of stuff is pretty obvious.  There would soon be an explosive demand for both motors and generators and Tesla wanted to have his designs patented so he could collect royalties.

In my preliminary opinion, without doing the in-depth research, that is the essence of the story behind these types of motor/generator patents by Tesla.

All of these Tesla patents are for early designs for UNDER UNITY motors and generators in anticipation of the upcoming electrification of the world.  THAT'S IT - NO MORE THAN THAT.

And what do we have?  We have the FTW gang pitching these Tesla patents as embryonic QEG designs or as the inspiration for the the design of the QEG.  I am willing to bet you it's not true, it's a lie.   I have read several people state that the two Tesla patents referenced by the FTW gang have NOTHING to do with the QEG.

You also have people on the forums that are so hyped with the concept of Tesla that if you tell them that the patents are for over unity hardware they will believe it without questioning it - sheeple.

You also have people that believe that these patents and other patents are over unity designs but Tesla intentionally left something out so as to not be "caught" by the Powers that Be.

In my opinion, they are just patents for ordinary motors and generators, period.  There is no "secret sauce," and there is NOTHING at all related to that hunk of metal and wire called the QEG.

So you are left with gratuitous cynical manipulation of the "free energy enthusiast masses" by the FTW gang and the ongoing "Cult of Tesla" sheeple that will believe almost anything with respect to free energy or "hidden messages" in the various Tesla patents.

Again, in the context of today, the various Tesla patents for motors and generators are just that - early zeroth-generation-design motors and generators.  THAT'S IT!

This whole cynical manipulation and use of Tesla's name by the Fix the World group amounts to another black mark in their book.  Beware of these people, they are trying to sell you snake oil.  The QEG is what it is.  As you see more test results come in, the rational and scientific analysis of the results will continue to show you that the QEG is a crappy generator, and nothing more than that.  There is an analogy with a Bedini motor, it's a crappy battery charger, and no more that that.  Both devices have about the same power-in to power-out efficiency, somewhere between 30% and 40%.  That sucks.

MileHigh