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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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PCB

My response to a question on http://be-do.com/index.php/en/forum/qeg-general-topics/451-please-explain-what-does-var-mean#2007


QuoteSteman - Very good question. VAR is the measurement unit for reactive or as we often call it in the UK "imaginary" power. The words "real" and "imaginary" come from complex number notation. The power used to light say a light bulb is referred to as "true" or "real" power and is measured in Watts. Real power can be used to do work like drive a motor or other load. Imaginary power can not be used to do work. It's main value to power generation companies is to maintain the correct end customer voltage levels on the national grid when you have inductive loads like refrigerators, motors, and other devices where you do not have unity power factor.


There is a third type of power referred to as apparent or "complex" power and is measured in Volt Amps (VA). It is the vector sum of the "real" and "imaginary" power vectors. You might find this article useful:


http://www.aspowertechnologies.com/resources/pdf/True%20vs.%20Apparent%20Power.pdf


Unfortunately it is not possible to convert imaginary power (VAR) into real power (Watts). So the QEG producing 20 KVAR in the primary coil is not particularly useful. Also when you calculate the efficiency of a device like the QEG you can not divide the imaginary power by the real power. So you can not do this 20000/600 = 33.33 overunity.


Let me know if I should make any editorial changes?

MarkE

Quote from: PCB on June 12, 2014, 08:16:30 AM
My response to a question on http://be-do.com/index.php/en/forum/qeg-general-topics/451-please-explain-what-does-var-mean#2007



Let me know if I should make any editorial changes?
When explaining reactive power, I try to emphasize that it is energy that moves in and out of storage.  Adding that detail in this case may not be helpful.  You are fighting an uphill battle with people who want to proclaim and / or believe that they have a free lunch.  I suspect that they will reject what you have told them as "in the box thinking". 

PCB

MarkE -  You are right of coarse, but the my main objective here is for those reading this forum and who are not technical to understand that the claim of overunity based on VARs is completely bogus, and generating reactive power in large quantities is not particularly useful.  I suspect that 20KVAR needs to be divided by 8 also.

Shanti

@PCB:
I think especially for a non technical educated person, it would be easier to understand it in the way Mark pointed out.
I would explain  it anyways not generally, but just in relation to the QEG:
It is the energy cycling back and forth, which is steadily accumulating energy, when the output power and the losses are smaller than the input power

Maybe one could it explain it to them even simpler: If e.g. you charge a capacitor with a certain energy, again and again, the energy in the capacitor obviously will accumulate.
Now you have much more energy in the capacitor. But that doesn't mean that you have generated more output energy, you have just accumulated it.


MarkE

Quote from: PCB on June 12, 2014, 09:09:25 AM
MarkE -  You are right of coarse, but the my main objective here is for those reading this forum and who are not technical to understand that the claim of overunity based on VARs is completely bogus, and generating reactive power in large quantities is not particularly useful.  I suspect that 20KVAR needs to be divided by 8 also.
I understand and agree with the intent.  It is not an easy task because there is a huge ignorance coupled with a huge distrust of anyone who understands it.  It's a good example of a cult.  When you invariably get push back and accusations of being part of some establishment plot then I suppose you can propose a test that will demonstrate the point.