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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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F_Brown

Quote from: TinselKoala on June 13, 2014, 07:30:56 AM
Very nice! You got the secondary's voltage peaks folding back just as in JR's "Morocco Overunity" shots. MileHigh will be pleased to hear the explanation for these "double peaks".

;)

I suspect the double peaks may be due to the funky nature of the variable coupling coefficient between the primary and the secondary of the QEG.  From my FEMM analysis it appears that the function for the coupling coefficient takes three arguments, the current in the primary, the current in the secondary, and the rotor position. 

That is another limitation of my SPICE model, it can only simulate the primary of the QEG.

For my SPICE model to handle the secondary it would require the construction of a three dimensional lookup table for the coupling coefficient, which would be a major hassle to even generate the data for let alone actually construct.

Fortunately, Maxwell 3D seems to take this situation easily in stride and just calculates the coupling coefficient right from the CAD model and integrated SPICE functionality.

MileHigh

Note the double peak in the FTW video is for the current in the primary, and the double peak in Isim's simulation is for a voltage.  Unfortunately I can't say more than that, I don't know exactly what the circuit is nor do I know where the voltage and current probes are.  English is not Isim's first language also so that makes it a challenge.

F_Brown, you are on the right track for the explanation of the double peaks but I don't think that you are quite there.  The art of simulation is to have it do a somewhat decent replication of the waveforms of the actual device.  Then you can tweak the simulation to make your waveforms more closely match the actual waveforms by playing with component values and stuff like that.  I watched Poynt99 do this several times for another series of ciruits.  Of course this thing is hard to simulate with a basic circuit simulator.  On top of that you don't have a "clean" set of waveforms for a standard QEG device as a reference.

Not much on the news front in terms of real progress either.  It looks like Jamie is outputting a partial technical bulletin about once per month.  We are in glacier territory, which is not a surprise.  The art of drawing stuff out for years is common in the "industry."

We will see if any QEG teams can put out a clean set of waveforms, including a waveform for the angular position of the rotor.  A very interesting set of waveforms would be for the flux through the different quadrants of the core.  That's a tangible and realizable challenge for all of the QEG groups.  They could compare their waveform sets and see if they are all on the same track.  The real question is are there qualified people in the groups to do this, or, are there people that are willing to learn?

Let's be idealistic and assume that you have 10 QEG groups that all share their waveforms and they are all about the same.  Let's assume that that they are all running between 30% and 40% efficient for the standard setup with the six light bulbs for the load.

That establishes a "QEG baseline" that all of the ardent QEG groups start at.  They let them all go nuts and twist dials and change loads and try anything they can.  Then they can record their new sets of waveforms and see if there is any sign of the Magic Spike.

If that actually happened, they would soon start to converge on the conclusion - the conclusion that the Magic Spike is nowhere to be seen and every attempted tweak will change their waveforms, but not fundamentally alter the bacic properties of the setup - a lousy generator.

MileHigh

MileHigh

PCB:

I see that you got a reply:

http://be-do.com/index.php/en/forum/qeg-general-topics/451-please-explain-what-does-var-mean

QuoteIt comes down to proper handling of a Lenz law reverse flux response, and it is not that somehow Lenz's law is violated or cancelled, but rather harnessed in a different manner so that underlying mechanisms that allow an over unity condition to flourish, are allowed to do their work without disruption.

That sounds like Wayne Travis!  lol

Vgray35 speaks with a bifilar tongue.

MileHigh

PCB

QuoteI suspect the double peaks may be due to the funky nature of the variable coupling coefficient between the primary and the secondary of the QEG.  From my FEMM analysis it appears that the function for the coupling coefficient takes three arguments, the current in the primary, the current in the secondary, and the rotor position. 
I was thinking the double peak was due to the variable inductance of the primary, swinging between two values (12H and 20H). I assume the resonant point is the average of the two extremes??



Pirate88179

Quote from: MileHigh on June 13, 2014, 11:39:36 PM


Vgray35 speaks with a bifilar tongue.

MileHigh

Did you just come up with this term?  That is excellent and should be adapted to bumper stickers and t-shirts and become part of our lexicon and vernacular.

Bill
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