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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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MileHigh

F_Brown:

That last set of waveforms you posted along with your observations is very informative and does does a great job of summarizing the general dynamics and principles at play in the QEG.  Between yourself and PCB I think that you are 80% of the way there.

So, I am going to repost the screen cap of the QEG primary voltage and current from the FTW clip.  See if the two of you can put it all together and explain the waveforms in simple terms, and relate that to the "events" that you see in the waveform.

As a reminder for the readers, yellow is the cap voltage and blue is the current.

MileHigh

F_Brown

Through this whole debacle I have grown progressively more suspicious of anything put forth by FTW.  It almost seems as if Jamie is deliberately trying to get the strangest waveform possible before shouting, "Eureka, Over-Unity!"

If you want to make sense of it all, I suggest examining waveforms from replicators like Ari, whose results are much closer to what my sim produces.

Anyway if I'm reading the scope correctly, the blue trace in the image you posted is only 179mV peak to peak.  That's practically noise.

What is that even suppose to be?  How is it being measured?

If that is suppose to represent a current, how are they converting the current to a voltage signal?

If they are using a current transformer to convert the current to a voltage, maybe that fold-back dip is an artifact product by the inductance of the CT...

I would think in this case it would be better to use two scope channels in differential mode across a low value current sense resistor, in order to eliminate any interaction of the inductance of a current transformer with the QEG circuit.

Is there a schematic of the test setup, like Ari posted?

Are there additional "exciter" coils connected to that circuit?

I believe I've seen that video, although if you post a link I'll review it.

MarkE

Quote from: F_Brown on June 14, 2014, 03:08:55 PM
Through this whole debacle I have grown progressively more suspicious of anything put forth by FTW.  It almost seems as if Jamie is deliberately trying to get the strangest waveform possible before shouting, "Eureka, Over-Unity!"

If you want to make sense of it all, I suggest examining waveforms from replicators like Ari, whose results are much closer to what my sim produces.

Anyway if I'm reading the scope correctly, the blue trace in the image you posted is only 179mV peak to peak.  That's practically noise.

What is that even suppose to be?  How is it being measured?

If that is suppose to represent a current, how are they converting the current to a voltage signal?

If they are using a current transformer to convert the current to a voltage, maybe that fold-back dip is an artifact product by the inductance of the CT...

I would think in this case it would be better to use two scope channels in differential mode across a low value current sense resistor, in order to eliminate any interaction of the inductance of a current transformer with the QEG circuit.

Is there a schematic of the test setup, like Ari posted?

Are there additional "exciter" coils connected to that circuit?

I believe I've seen that video, although if you post a link I'll review it.
FTW has said that the 179mV reading is the current sense at 10A/V: 1.79A.

F_Brown

Quote from: MarkE on June 14, 2014, 04:07:03 PM
FTW has said that the 179mV reading is the current sense at 10A/V: 1.79A.

It's my impression that current sense transformers are for AC sinewave currents rather then arbitrary waveform signals.  I believe they said on one point there were using a CT to track the current.  So, is the one they are using going to accurately track at that frequency?

Anyway, with the voltage at 15V peak to peak and the current at 1.8A peak to peak what is that supposed to be the primary or the secondary?

There are too many unknowns here to really say anything definite about it at all.  I think that's the point and the strategy.

Pirate88179

Quote from: Cisco on June 14, 2014, 01:20:49 PM

This is similar to what Mylow actually did when he visited Howard Johnson's grave in mock reverence. Mylow had likewise claimed to have designed his phoney magnetic motor based on Howard Johnson's magnetic device and patent. Such drama! I gotta go, even my cat is barfing now.

Excellent comparison!  But, there is one major difference...Mylow (That scumbag) was not selling anything, although he did cause a lot of folks to waste a lot of their hard earned money on doomed replications which is also terrible and despicable.  The FTW folks are doing the same thing AND profiting nicely from it.  Shameful...very shameful indeed.  Karma will indeed catch up with them one day...and soon I hope.

Bill
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