Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

[ACG]

A group in Europe has put the brakes on their build because of the results of FTW's Morocco attempt.  PDF path in the post.
http://be-do.com/index.php/en/forum/manuals-documents-and-tutorials/493-full-set-of-mechanical-drawings-for-qeg

Second section under My Own Development explains the initial claim of 9kW with the decision to stop their order of parts.  Followed by a very good question.
"Why the FTW team was not able to reproduce similar results with their Morocco prototype as they achieved with their first one, remains an unanswered question for me."


What will Shean, Larry, or Vgray35 have as a response if any at all or just ignore the all important question.

[TinselKoala]

From the pdf:

During the interview with FTW by alternative energy reporter Sterling Allan, James Robitaille from FTW told that he had about 9kW of equipment running (as a load) on his prototype QEG with less than 1 kW of input:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJKE5DJRMFQ .

Initially my business partners and I planned to order components and build one ourselves. However, when FTW released a well documented test report with energy input and output measurements from a new prototype they built in Morocco, we pulled the handbrake. The measurements showed that no more than 590W of usable output was achieved with an input of 607W:

https://hopegirl2012.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/morocco-qeg-june-2014-test-and-measurement-report-v2-011.pdf

Although the report also stated that this Morocco prototype was not tuned/optimized yet, a new test report showing similar results as mentioned in the Sterling Allan interview has not yet been released. Until such a new report is available, we decided to wait with ordering any components.

Why the FTW team was not able to reproduce similar results with their Morocco prototype as they achieved with their first one, remains an unanswered question for me.

I can answer the "unanswered question" and I'll do it for a lot less than "three hundred dollars an hour".

Are you ready, QEGers? Here you go.

The claim that there ever existed a "working prototype" that ran itself, for any amount of time much less 150 hours, and/or also provided 9 kW power to an external load while drawing only 1 kW from its supply is FALSE.

And there is nothing wrong with the "reproductions" in the other QEG builds around the world: they are performing exactly as expected and exactly in line with Robitaille's "prototype".

To put it very plainly: You, QEG builders around the world.... have been misled. The information you were given that caused your interest and donations in the first place was, and remains, UTTERLY FALSE.

Don't believe me? Then pool your resources and send one person, with all your money, to TIMOTHY THRAPP and pay him to see his "working prototype". Since James R. cannot under any circumstances show you his, because he hasn't got one. Or don't you believe in Timmy Thrapp and WITTS either?

[TinselKoala]

@isim:
Thanks for your interest in this little measurement problem. Hopefully the QEGers are also following along and will take this experience to heart when making their own measurements and interpretations.

Here's the schematic for the wireless power transmitter system, with the voltage and current monitoring points indicated. The output current viewing resistor is the 2 parallel 0.5 ohm Ohmite noninductive ones, datasheet posted earlier. The input CVR is just an ordinary cement power resistor (to confirm DC waveform on the scope) or the DMM in ammeter mode (impedance about 1.8 ohm).
I apologize for the non-conventional schematic! I did it this way some time ago for a reason that isn't really relevant here... poking at LMM!

Also, another picture of the underside of that particular circuit board showing the layout. Note that the output side of the circuit: mosfet Drains, capacitors and connection to output loop/coil, is made with heavy conductors and direct, low inductance pathways as far as possible.

[TinselKoala]

Ugh. I do hate that pad-per-hole prototyping method and I rarely use it, but I was experimenting with different methods and that was the result.

But here is another much cleaner layout following the same principles (before mounting the chokes):

[Farmhand]

@isim:
I've confirmed that the input power to my system is straight DC. I connected a current viewing resistor in-line with the battery supply and scoped it: total flat-line DC without any ripple or spikes. The input current is DC at the value shown on the DMMs.

I was going to comment yesterday that Your input looked right to me, in my experiences with a lot lesser input and using transformers
I found that the readings from my True RMS DMM are pretty mush just as accurate as using the scope and a 0.1 Ohm CSR (wire one)
I also checked with a analogue panel meter. But if the scope shows flat DC and the DMM agrees with the scope then I usually use the DMM.

Tinsels input just looks correct for the power he is developing in the tank.

Only the power dissipated in the tank can be considered output. I would expect to see more power in the tank than is being input.

The bit that makes me wonder with Tinsels setup is the power dissipated in the circuit. Seems to me there would be a bit of juice
dissipated in the circuit.

Will be good to see the sim. Can we run the sims ? I still haven't leaned the basics of Spice.

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P.S. Tinsel you usually get a god 21 watts or more out don't you, I seen you show what i think was a 21 Watt auto globe lit right up,
probably over powered.
So 33 Watts input and 23 Watts output with a few Watts feeding the tank losses, a few watts "pumping" up the tank and a few
Watts dissipated in the driving circuit.

The power in the tank is kinda inconsequential compared to input and true output.

Your current sense resistor is more or less your load isn't it ?

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