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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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Void

Quote from: Farmhand on August 21, 2014, 11:51:40 AM
Then I only need to measure the output of the tank and the load power, then that is the equivalent to a grid system.  ;)

Get my point ?

I could ignore the DC input to the primary because we only need the output coil and the load power.

See the problem !
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No, I am agreeing that you need to measure the input power to the circuit, and
I think I made that clear, but if you simply add some power factor correction components to the
input of the circuit then you don't have to be concerned about the effect that a reactive
load is putting on the line. I think that can be taken out of the equation by simply
adding some power factor correction components at the input of the circuit to bring
the power factor close to 1. Measure the power input just prior to these power factor
components and you are set. Simple and easy.

I guess the exception would be where the circuit is causing a lot of distortion on the line voltage
or current. Power factor correction might be tougher to implement in that case.

:)


Farmhand

Quote from: Void on August 21, 2014, 11:57:58 AM
No, I am agreeing that you need to measure the input power to the circuit, and
I think I made that clear, but if you simply add some power factor components to the
input of the circuit then you don't have to be concerned about the effect that a reactive
load is putting on the line. I think that can be taken out of the equation by simply
adding some power factor correction components at the input of the circuit to bring
the power factor close to 1. Measure the power input just prior to these power factor
components and you are set. Simple and easy.

:)

What the load circuit ?  :) Because I can use an output transformer and do that as well. See !

P.S. Then I would only need to measure the input to the output transformer and the load power but not the cost of producing
the AC from stored energy.

I've got a Ferrite core transformer and it works well from the output of this type of setup if I tune it.
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Void

Quote from: Farmhand on August 21, 2014, 12:00:09 PM
What the load circuit ?  :) Because I can use an output transformer and do that as well. See !
..

No, I don't see that it needs to be any more complicated than what I have described.
If you measure at the power input to your circuit as I am saying, which is either the
line voltage input at the power socket, or at the battery or DC power supply terminals, then
that is all you really need. Of course you have to take into account possible ground loops as well if
not using a battery.

All the best...
:)

Farmhand

Quote from: Void on August 21, 2014, 12:06:09 PM
No, I don't see that it needs to be any more complicated than what I have described.
If you measure at the power input to your circuit as I am saying, which is either the
line voltage input at the power socket, or at the battery or DC power supply terminals, then
that is all you really need. Of course you have to take into account possible ground loops as well if
not using a battery.

All the best...
:)

What circuit, the output circuit ?  :)  You're argument is circular and you are failing to consider properly what I am saying.
My "arrangement" is a set of circuits, it's an AC generator and a load, but I can make it an AC generator then a transformer
then a load and that will show why the reactive power claims are BS.

A circuit can be defined by a current loop ?
.

If I just measure the input and output to a transformer connected to the grid I'm only measuring one part of a larger circuit.

Gee wizz.

Farmhand

Does anyone even calculate the resistance between your house and the Grid Pole transformer to get an idea of reactive power
related losses in the lines  just back to that point ? I think the resistance of the grid is more than people realize and quite a bit
of power is consumed by the DC resistance of the lines relating to the current portion of the reactive power.

The losses are real Watts. And so therefore the resistance of the lines converts reactive power to real power. It must or the losses
from reactive power would not exist. It's not an "all either reactive or not thing" it's portions of a whole doing one thing or another
or something else.

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