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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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MileHigh

TK:

That's an excellent point about cause vs. effect.  I honestly didn't even think about that issue.  It just goes to show how much our unconscious biases can influence our thinking and can lead us down a garden path.  I have used that term a lot on the Quanta Magnetics threads and you can see how I am also subject to that problem.

So when I thought about the issue some more, I sill conclude that the spark gap engaging is the cause of the light bulbs brightening and not vice-versa.  The reasoning is that the spark gap is close to being "on edge" most of the time, and triggers quasi randomly when a very slight increase in potential starts to rip the air molecules apart.  So it's only a very tiny differential increase in potential that triggers the avalanche.  That very tiny increase would not be seen in the light bulbs.  In contrast, once the spark gap engages then the huge change in flux in the core starts and that is taken advantage of by the secondary coils.

Even though I led myself down a garden path by not thinking it through, I think that aspect has been covered now.  Beyond that, I was lucid enough to originally state that everything still had to be verified on the bench... and it still does.

MileHigh

TinselKoala

@MH:
Well, this is exceedingly strange. As I said earlier I looked at the video and didn't see your comments, only the three. But I left the page open. And I just now got back from walking my dog, and when I turned the monitor back on, I see that page... _WITH_ your comments, and with Kevin's quite reasonable responses.  Very weird.
Perhaps your comments were simply waiting approval before showing up. I str a YT option for that. Did you see a "waiting for approval" notice when you originally posted the comments?

Now, as to the subject matter: Yes, and no. Depending on where the SG is in the circuit, it could provide tickles just above and below the gap trigger voltage as you describe, or it could provide a path for nearly complete discharge of the capacitor bank. And it could discharge the caps into the bulbs, for all I know: this is why we need the exact schematic that is in use during that test.
When a SG triggers, the spark itself is a highly conductive plasma. So if there is a good amount of energy behind the gap, like with a capacitor bank, when the gap overvolts the "spark" that forms is a power arc, however brief, and most of the energy in the cap bank can be shorted through the power arc plasma in the gap.

MileHigh

TK:

Yes, I saw the comments after your posting.  I give Kevin credit for his response.

Yes to your yes and no.  One more time, I was not really thinking about the capacitor bank, another slip.  So indeed the data is incomplete and you need the schematic.  It feels like I am slipping into the "pseudo tech circuit talk" that I myself often complain about.

It's also a pity that there is not a single comprehensive public timing diagram for from any group for this "open source" project, starting from Jamie on downwards.  As I have stated many times in the past, even with an old two-channel analog scope, if you roll up your shirtsleeves and are willing to do the work, you could produce a 16-channel timing diagram if you wanted to.  You could plot the actual magnetic flux through each quadrant of the core by just doing a hand sketch using "eyeball integration" of the waveforms from your sensor coils.  With that you could make some pretty good inferences of the flux going through the spinning rotor itself, and put that on your timing diagram also.  It's really a shame, about eight months into this project and not a single credible timing diagram from anybody.

MileHigh

MileHigh

Well, I did a huge dump of information about how to make a timing diagram for the QEG at resonance when driving a light bulb load on Kevin's YouTube clip.   I talked about how to analyze it, the whole nine yards.  He said that he would forward my previous posting to his engineering group so I said what the hell and I went all out.  I don't know if it will do any good.

MarkE

Quote from: MileHigh on October 21, 2014, 09:51:29 PM
Well, I did a huge dump of information about how to make a timing diagram for the QEG at resonance when driving a light bulb load on Kevin's YouTube clip.   I talked about how to analyze it, the whole nine yards.  He said that he would forward my previous posting to his engineering group so I said what the hell and I went all out.  I don't know if it will do any good.
Kevin tells a story that I find convincing as far as what he believes.  The evidence against those beliefs is massive.