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Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

Started by madddann, March 26, 2014, 09:42:27 PM

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PCB

Quote from: TinselKoala on October 24, 2014, 08:01:10 AM
The information you seek is in the video playlist.

Input power, which is strictly DC with very little ripple, is shown on meters in the first video.

The best measurements I was able to make of the power circulating in the tank, using an inline non-inductive resistor for current measurement, indicate that the power circulating in the tank is purely reactive, with a 90 degree phase angle, or very close to it, between voltage and current. As expected in a resonating tank circuit consisting only of L and C elements. The first video shows the _magnitude_ of these values and demonstrates the error of "OU in VARs". You don't really need me to plot the actual triangle, I hope.

Subsequent videos explore the error and make the current measurements in various ways, finally culminating in the use of the Ohmite precision Ayrton-Perry wound non-inductive CSR installed in series with the output coil to measure the current in the tank. Two videos in the series "detour" a bit and explain the phase angle issue, and how it is measured on the scope in various ways, using Lissajous figure in the scope's XY mode and also by straight measurement of the V and I traces on the scope's time domain display. By the end of the series I am demonstrating how my technique (coupling of tuned air-core coils in the near field) for extracting and converting some of this power to "real power" driving a load, reduces the magnitude of the tank oscillations but doesn't change the reactive nature of the power in the tank.

I have deliberately avoided reporting final output "real" power measurements as I don't want to mislead anyone. My systems are nowhere near as efficient as they could be made with intelligent design, they are simply illustrations of a principle. With a 100 percent efficient circuit, one could transfer all of the input power continuously to the real power driving the final load... and there would still be power circulating in the tank itself as long as it is resonating. All of this power, real or reactive, comes from the input power source; it takes a finite and measurable time for the reactive power to build up in the tank; and the tank can even discharge this power after the main supply is cut off.

It can even discharge the stored, circulating tank power so fast that it will literally blow apart the mosfets, if there is nowhere else for it to go. This proves that the reactive power in the tank is "real" enough to have profound effects when it isn't handled properly. Another proof that the power in the tank is actually there... that is, there really IS, say, 20 amps, 200 volts, available... is that the system works as a wireless power transmitter by inducing currents in air-core, near field coupled receiver coils.

My demonstrations, under another topic, of the relative brightness of a light bulb driven directly by a battery, and the same bulb shining much brighter when driven by the output of a tuned aircore near-field coupled coil, transmitter being powered by the same battery... illustrate the "power" of this technique. Certainly, overall throughput efficiency of my systems is low, the current drawn from the battery increases correspondingly, but even so, one can allow oneself to be slightly amazed at the result.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi-hl2W86yk
The transmitter circuit is essentially the same as the microQEG but with different component values.
TK. I'm aware the input is DC (a good thing as it's not controversial with respect to input power), and I admit to being a little lazy is asking for these values. There is some point to my asking for this info. There must be some real power component that I assume is load dependent. It is not possible to gleam what that component value is from the video.  I'm guessing here but when the circuit is unloaded all the power is almost all reactive (LC circuit with a very little R). When you load the circuit via the various methods you demonstrate, there must I assume be a visible phase shift between V & I. So yes I guess I am asking for a vector diagram for various load conditions. .

TinselKoala

Quote from: PCB on October 24, 2014, 07:51:56 PM
TK. I'm aware the input is DC (a good thing as it's not controversial with respect to input power), and I admit to being a little lazy is asking for these values. There is some point to my asking for this info. There must be some real power component that I assume is load dependent. It is not possible to gleam what that component value is from the video.  I'm guessing here but when the circuit is unloaded all the power is almost all reactive (LC circuit with a very little R). When you load the circuit via the various methods you demonstrate, there must I assume be a visible phase shift between V & I. So yes I guess I am asking for a vector diagram for various load conditions. .
Well, the insertion of the Ohmite 0.25 ohm noninductive CSR into the LC tank for current monitoring does cause a little shift away from 90 degrees, and there is definitely power dissipated by this resistor when the thing is operating; I have to be careful not to burn it up in fact, and this is also why the coil-capacitor-drain-source circuit has to be made from heavy conductors for low resistance.

But loading the system with the aircore secondary coils (the HV receptor, or the DC transverter driving the motor load) doesn't add ohmic resistance to the tank circuit.

Right now I am set up for different experiments; the microQEG is put away, up on the shelf. The exact measurement of small phase shifts happening around 90 degrees is difficult with my rudimentary equipment but perhaps a Lissajous display might be sensitive enough to show small changes in phase with changes in the coupled load. I'll try to set up a demonstration over the next day or so.

Thank you for your continued interest. I know there are people out there with better scopes than I have got, that will give the phase shift directly in numbers without tedious manual measurements and computations like I must do. Maybe one of them might get interested enough to build a microQEG system for themselves and improve on my measurements. Meanwhile I'll try to assemble the data you seek.

ETA: Does anyone know of such a data set from any FTW QEG construction?

joel321

I don't like to insult people but for some reason I've only seen MILHIGH only as some type of person who has everything figured out...as if everyone is wrong until they waste their energy to prove him wrong? If you think about it, that only means that he is able to defunct all QEGs but yet he already stated that he is not even experiences in the technology!!!  What do we have left, some type of individual that has been too long in a forum where he feels like he knows everything that it is yet to be discovered! Like he is a filter where truth only comes out of him and NEEDS to go through his filter in order for it to be true.

I don't mind a critic here and there because productive criticisms is basically a little baby tripping and standing up to learn how to walk....but MILEHIGH seems to me like the future has been stagnated and no further technologies will EVOLVE. I already stated if MILEHIGH is not investing any money, why is he so butt hurt about people who do?

He does not understand how investing works, either in the monetary or in the support group in therapy....he DEMANDS proof while very comfortable no one asking him for demands! SO I want to break his IGNORANSE and would peacefully demand MILEHIGH to show me proof of his beliefs.

First I would like to ask mile high how investors are needed for an invention spread to the masses?

Thean after understanding how "investing" works, I would like to hear from MILEHIGH what was the purpose of investing in the first place?

Then I would like to hear MILEHIGH tell me the difference of an investor investing in gold or silver VS investing in the QEG?

Then I would like MILEHIGH to answer is breathing air for a human not some type of FREEE energy?

Sae with the ability to see things since the sun provides FREEE energy! If it was not up to FREEE sun energy rays, how would you be able to see? Or even, as a matter of fact, for eyes to EVOLVE?

MILEHIGH demands FACTS, but it's your turn to step up to the plate to show your qualifications as to who gave you the authority as a judge in a court of law?

MarkE

Quote from: joel321 on October 25, 2014, 02:48:40 AM
I don't like to insult people but for some reason I've only seen MILHIGH only as some type of person who has everything figured out...as if everyone is wrong until they waste their energy to prove him wrong? If you think about it, that only means that he is able to defunct all QEGs but yet he already stated that he is not even experiences in the technology!!!  What do we have left, some type of individual that has been too long in a forum where he feels like he knows everything that it is yet to be discovered! Like he is a filter where truth only comes out of him and NEEDS to go through his filter in order for it to be true.

I don't mind a critic here and there because productive criticisms is basically a little baby tripping and standing up to learn how to walk....but MILEHIGH seems to me like the future has been stagnated and no further technologies will EVOLVE. I already stated if MILEHIGH is not investing any money, why is he so butt hurt about people who do?

He does not understand how investing works, either in the monetary or in the support group in therapy....he DEMANDS proof while very comfortable no one asking him for demands! SO I want to break his IGNORANSE and would peacefully demand MILEHIGH to show me proof of his beliefs.

First I would like to ask mile high how investors are needed for an invention spread to the masses?

Thean after understanding how "investing" works, I would like to hear from MILEHIGH what was the purpose of investing in the first place?

Then I would like to hear MILEHIGH tell me the difference of an investor investing in gold or silver VS investing in the QEG?

Then I would like MILEHIGH to answer is breathing air for a human not some type of FREEE energy?

Sae with the ability to see things since the sun provides FREEE energy! If it was not up to FREEE sun energy rays, how would you be able to see? Or even, as a matter of fact, for eyes to EVOLVE?

MILEHIGH demands FACTS, but it's your turn to step up to the plate to show your qualifications as to who gave you the authority as a judge in a court of law?
The promoters of the QEG have demonstrated that it does not perform as they claim.  MH has offered science based reasons for why that is so. 

One might rightfully wonder what it is that motivates you to keep defending the Robitaille's false claims.  You give the appearance that you have a keen interest in promoting the idea that they have something of value when they have repeatedly demonstrated just the opposite.


joel321

QuoteThe promoters of the QEG have demonstrated that it does not perform as they claim.  MH has offered science based reasons for why that is so.

One might rightfully wonder what it is that motivates you to keep defending the Robitaille's false claims.  You give the appearance that you have a keen interest in promoting the idea that they have something of value when they have repeatedly demonstrated just the opposite.

With all due respect, I want MILEHIGH to answer! I was not asking you...thanks.