Quantum Energy Generator (QEG) Open Sourced (by HopeGirl)

[Pirate88179]

@Pirate

I think you have missed the point as well Bill, your religion does not work as advertised nor could any claims be considered tangible. So yes the term fraud does come to mind in that so many would promote something which they cannot prove as real. Unless of course you can show me your God, I would like to meet him and I have a few questions.


What I cannot agree with is that so many would judge others and then when the judgement comes full circle they say... well my belief is different and you cannot talk about my beliefs in the same context as I talk about other's. The fact remains that you believe a bearded man in a white dress created the universe in six days. Who are you to judge the credibility of anyone considering your beliefs and the facts Bill?. Regardless of what you may think this is a two way street and religion is not an exception to the rule. It must to be judged in the same context as any other belief... no better no worse.


You cannot speak of ignorance and analogies, claims and facts rigidly applied to everyone else and think they will never be applied to you. You have no more credibility than anyone else who cannot prove their beliefs as a fact... no better no worse. As a professional I generally see the same response concerning religion and free energy. First the person resorts to a long line of illogical fallicies to try and substantiate their claim. Then when their logic starts falling apart there is an appeal to emotion and authority then the name calling starts generally followed by threats of violence. So let's not go there Bill because your going to lose.


Concerning Free Energy, we have proof no place in the known universe is devoid of Energy...it is everywhere in everything. It is a well proven fact and we are getting better at extracting energy from ambient conditions such as the various forms of solar energy every day. Nanotechnology is improving the extraction of energy from solar, ambient heat, evaporation, EM scavenging etc.. . The trend is pointing to the singular fact that in the future we will not need archaic "fuels" any longer and we will extract an abundance of energy from our environment as Nikola Tesla predicted 100 years ago. All the energy we could ever want has been proven to be there for the taking and not you or anyone else will dictate how we do it. There are an infinite number of ways we do not know of and have yet to fully understand. So before people start going on a god damn witch hunt judging others they may want to think twice about how much they actually understand.


AC

That sure was a lot of words demonstrating that you once again missed the point.  I do not argue religion...it is personal...everyone can believe what they want.  But, for you to compare HoplessGirl's scam to the existence of God, which has never been disproved, is, as I have said, a terrible and incorrect analogy.

I'll break it down for you once again.  The existence of God has never been disproved, the claims of the device sold by the scammers HopelessGirl et al, has been disproved.  See? 

I do find it funny that you consider yourself more rational than brilliant physicists like Stephen Hawking, Einstein and Michio Kaku when it comes to the existence of God...all of which have said that the more they learn of our universe, the more likely the existence of God.

But, please feel free to believe what you want.  Just don't continue your efforts to convert others to your beliefs as they are fruitless yes?

Bill

[allcanadian]

@memoryman

Regarding 'free energy', consider that the real issue is NOT energy, but the FLOW of energy producing WORK, a phenomenon that is. non-conservative.

Here is a thought... what is conservative and non-conservative?. Now let's say I have a closed black box and energy is supposedly conserved within it. Then a high energy particle which has traveled 100 light years from a distance sun randomly collides with the atoms in my box releasing energy. Thus we see the conservation of Energy does not exclude free energy and in fact supports it. As such conservative is just a fancy way of saying we will ignore some facts we don't like to support our beliefs.


Think about it... a universe seething with energy which cannot be created or destroyed only transformed. A star one billion light years away could radiate energy which is just hitting the Earth now...because energy is conserved. The conservation of energy proves the universe must be full of energy everywhere in everything. Which is a problem for Bill because he believes the universe was created about 6000 years ago by a bearded man in a white dress who loves him. However in our world... does it matter if something is conservative/non-conservative if we know as a fact that we are swimming in a sea of energy just waiting for us to understand how to extract it?.


The conservation of Energy, conservative/non-conservative does not discount free energy... it proves it.


AC

[Pirate88179]

@memoryman


Here is a thought... what is conservative and non-conservative?. Now let's say I have a closed black box and energy is supposedly conserved within it. Then a high energy particle which has traveled 100 light years from a distance sun randomly collides with the atoms in my box releasing energy. Thus we see the conservation of Energy does not exclude free energy and in fact supports it. As such conservative is just a fancy way of saying we will ignore some facts we don't like to support our beliefs.


Think about it... a universe seething with energy which cannot be created or destroyed only transformed. A star one billion light years away could radiate energy which is just hitting the Earth now...because energy is conserved. The conservation of energy proves the universe must be full of energy everywhere in everything. Which is a problem for Bill because he believes the universe was created about 6000 years ago by a bearded man in a white dress who loves him. However in our world... does it matter if something is conservative/non-conservative if we know as a fact that we are swimming in a sea of energy just waiting for us to understand how to extract it?.


The conservation of Energy, conservative/non-conservative does not discount free energy... it proves it.


AC

There you go again, assuming that you know what it is that I believe even though I have never stated it.  Oh, I also left out that Newton also believed in God as well.

Do you not see that making fun of me for believing in God, and trying to get others to agree with you is just as bad as someone trying to convert you to their beliefs?


For the record, the earth is billions of years old.  (I was a geology major in college)  I am a man of science and engineering.  As all of those other great fellows I mentioned determined, the universe is so beautiful and engineered in such a wonderful way, it can not be an accident.

"God does not play dice".  Albert Einstein.

Try to be more accurate in the future please.

Thank you.

Bill

[MileHigh]

There is no evidence that any kind of god exists, it's all just based on faith.  There is a strong atheist movement on YouTube and it's an important counterbalance to the complete insanity that we see in the world today in the name of god and religion.  You should look up the Amazing Atheist.  Separation of church and state is a very important principle that I think we should adhere to.  All state and provincial legislatures and federal legislatures and institutions should remove all references to "god" and the same thing applies to the currency.  There should be no crosses in any state or provincial legislature.  You can still celebrate Christmas and all that stuff, just separate the notion of "god" and the state.  No stoning, or cutting off of hands either.  It's entirely possible that we are just a result of a big bang and random chance resulted in us coming into being over a long long evolutionary process.  In the 1950s they put some gasses in a flask and sparked it with electric discharges and found that more complex molecules were produced, and I think some of them were amino acids.  It's a very famous experiment, you can look it up.

Anyway, notwithstanding the big man upstairs if he exists, there is no such thing as a magic reluctance generator.  That's what this thread is all about.

Our little hopeless girl deleted her account on that crowdfunding page, once the fake project was stopped.  Just the fact that she presumably immediately deleted her account and high-tailed it and ran away when the prospect of getting money dried up says a lot about her and reinforces the near certainty that she is just a criminal con artist looking for a new free revenue stream.  Shame on her, and shame on everyone associated with her.  No doubt she and her cronies are still salivating at the prospect of a big $120K score and they will be trying to concoct another scheme so that a little old lady from Canada parts with her money.

[allcanadian]

@Bill

For the record, the earth is billions of years old.  (I was a geology major in college)  I am a man of science and engineering.  As all of those other great fellows I mentioned determined, the universe is so beautiful and engineered in such a wonderful way, it can not be an accident.[/size]"God does not play dice".  Albert Einstein.Try to be more accurate in the future please.Thank you.

You know it's odd that so many intelligent people with such great understanding could have such differences in opinions and beliefs. One would think that if we really did understand all the facts there would be more agreement. In any case I have no less respect for you as a person despite our differences of opinions and I mean that sincerely. As you know I like to mix it up a bit and get people going to see what they really think however I mean no offense. Your one cool dude Bill and didn't come unglued as so many do... I can respect that.


At the least all I expect is a good debate as to why we believe what we do just to keep us honest, lol.


AC