Vortex Magnet Motor

[dean_mcgowan]

Sam,

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you.

I do understand where you are coming from with the sphere inside a sphere. Its really good and has been suggested to me once before by a friend who is a geologist when he first saw what i was trying to do.

Stabilisation of  the internal sphere was something that came to mind and that would introduce a requirement of a fixed relationship as opposed to the free floating cone within a cone arrangement.

I wish to eliminate any friction in the system, hence loss of energy through dissipation of heat.

The final plan would also include the feature of the box containing the cones being a vaccum to reduce friction from air vortices etc.

Though having said this it may be possible to have an inverted set of cones stacked on top instead of the repulsive magnets on the core and box lids.

Must be a million different configurations, maybe even half cone half sphere options, like an icecream cone.

I will proceed till I have made a decent prototype of this initial idea and see what the results dictate

So many things to try hey

Early days for this idea I suppose.

Thanks for your valuable input.

Dean

[supersam]

dean

thanks for the reply and sorry for the typeo's in mine.

picture the fact that to gain the ultimate effieciency from yor unit you will have to form an "EQUATOR" somehow.  i am as stumped to do this in a frictionless environment as you.  maybe a magnetic bearing at the poles?  in most all planetary bodies ( spheres) the magnetic north is slightly offset.  is there a reason? maybe to overcome the friction of a (pole BEARING weight)?  there has to be a reason for this in the earth.

think if you had a N/S center magnet in your device that was a sphere within a shere, slightly off of the true pole setting.  this might make the overall shere wobble slightly as Earth does, due to the added enertia.

so in conclussion i think you should revisit the sphere in a sphere concept or look very closely at the inverted cone or cones concept to help you complete the full 360 x 360 sphere or hyperbole that you may have envisioned by now.

good luck with all.  iknow you are on the right track!

lol
sam

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dean

have you looked at the work kosol?  you might want to google "kosol device" and see where it takes us . i hadn't seen it until today.  looks enteresting if you are looking out side the circle and already to the spiral.

lol
sam

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[dean_mcgowan]

dean

have you looked at the work kosol?  you might want to google "kosol device" and see where it takes us . i hadn't seen it until today.  looks enteresting if you are looking out side the circle and already to the spiral.

lol
sam

Sam,

I did investigate the kosol group some time ago and became a group member. I just felt the whole thing started to lose its grounding in reality. There are some really good thinkers there and they are quite inspiring, yet and I do say this with respect to its members, I feel the general process has been hijacked by a spiritual movement and that for me at least does not appeal. I would much prefer to remain with both feet on the ground and build things and test them and attempt to improve on the results.

Kosol did come forward with a proposal much like what you suggested with the sphere within a sphere Idea, However let me say why I think this wont work. The symmetry inherent in the system is what I am attempting to negate. The inspiration for my idea derives more from another physical system known as the "clem device" see: http://www.keelynet.com/energy/clemcone.htm and the obvious deficiencies of all linear based systems of magnet motor design whereby the locking is inevitable due to the fixed positions of the magnets within the system. I am attempting to draw on the observable universe and facts such that you have duely noted, like the earth wobbles on its axis to provide clues on how these systems perpetuate and seem to draw in energy whilst doing so.

Consider that the earth as such sits in a gravity well, and channels energy from the magnetic flux lines of the sun
through its poles enabling it to spin whilst balanced. Yes I know, an oversimplified analogy based on some hyperbole from the electric universe crowd, yet somehow this makes sense to me.

I suppose this is what I am attempting to acheive with my designs.

I am just a hack "having a go" at the end of the day, and I am not ashamed to admit it. I don't believe the aliens endowed me with this knowledge or that I am a channel for the "beings of light". And if it works then as my kids say to me.. "How sick would that be dad!, you could put a propeller on top and it would make a kewl helicopter that would fly on its own like a kite and have a string attached... etc etc etc". Gotta love em !!

Thanks again for your thoughts Sam.

Cheers,

Dean McGowan