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The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!

Started by gravityblock, May 06, 2014, 07:16:02 PM

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MarkE

Quote from: gauschor on June 17, 2014, 09:49:38 AM
I must have missed that paper which claims the universe is a simulation through the pages. Can someone  direct me to it?
GB linked a paper that talks about some of the consequences that might occur if the universe were a computer simulation.  GB went round and round claiming that the authors ran simulations that resulted in statistics showing the idea  that the universe is a computer simulation is likely.  Go back five or six pages and you should be able to find the links.

sarkeizen

Quote from: gravityblock on June 17, 2014, 06:10:54 AMThere is more proof the universe is a simulation than not!
See what I would normally do here is ask gravityblockhead to justify that statement.  Because it's a particularly difficult to justify you would either need to know *all* evidence or you would need to have some way to determine that better evidence would be particularly hard but GB would spend the whole time trying to distract from the point.   So why bother?

TinselKoala

What is never explained by these hand-waving "theorists" is just what the posited simulation is running on, and why that isn't to be considered part of "the Universe", and who is running it and for whom is it being run. How many layers of simulation are there? Is it "turtles all the way down"?

Anyone who claims "statistical evidence in favor" of such silliness is misusing statistics and playing fast and loose with definitions of terms like "evidence".  You might as well be claiming that the whole thing was created by some supernatural bearded old man up in Heaven somewhere, in six days. Statistically.... there is a whole lot more "evidence" for that claim, than the "universe is simulation" claim. Where are the billions of believers in the latter? Maybe they are all off squaring circles or something.

gravityblock

Quote from: MarkE on June 17, 2014, 08:46:47 AM
LOL, it's nice to see you stick to your schtick:  Make unevidenced assertion, demand others disprove it.

MarkE,

If you say the universe isn't a simulation, then you need to show evidence for your belief that it isn't, just as you are demanding evidence for my belief it is a simulation.  I'm not demanding you disprove the universe is a simulation, but I am asking for you to show proof of your belief that it isn't.  Fair is fair!

Gravock
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