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Selfcharging cap circuit from Larskro fake or real ?

Started by hartiberlin, May 23, 2014, 10:41:17 PM

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gyulasun

Quote from: hartiberlin on May 24, 2014, 11:17:20 AM
Seems it depends on the cooling of the SMD cap with its nonlinear dielectric and converting heat to electric energy...
http://youtu.be/DpvLwll79Ho

Stefan,

The temperature difference he measures is around 1°C.  I believe that the rotor ventilates a small amount of air which reaches the surface of the SMD capacitor so it cools down a little bit.  If this small amount of cooling already enough for releasing some energy from such type of capacitor (ceramic, multilayer) then it may be enough for looping. 

So I do not think the cap cools itself, I think it is cooled by the small air movement the rotor makes near to it, and this may cause the effect. 

Larsko could easily test this: just would need to use a separate ventilator to cool the cap further down and see or measure cap current.  (Here I give the benefit of doubt: hopefully he did not fake the setup.)

Gyula

hartiberlin

Larskro has released his second video about this cap charging.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpvLwll79Ho

He writes that he has studied the effect of Dr. H. Weber and
his SMD cap has cooled apparently..
I had tried a similar effect before.
that depends on the used non-linear temperature-dependent
Dielectric material from the capacitor.
I had used 10 pieces of ceramic blocking capacitors 100 nF in parallel and
then  charged them with a 9 volt battery .
Then, I strongly heated them with a hair dryer and then the voltage rose on the capacitors
to nearly 100 volts !
There is also a different dielectric material , where the voltage on the capacitors
increases when cooling them !

Now I looked up , what I can find about this Dr. Weber.
This iswhat  I've found:

Producing electrical energy from heat

Weber is the inventor of a " pyroelectric " method for generating electrical energy from heat .
The Weberian "Heat Trap" ( heat sink ) is referred to by him as a converter to convert heat
(Temperature range 30-90 ° C) into electric current
(10 kW are claimed )
Here pyroelectric crystals work in a " Pyrooszillator " ( " Pyrocell " ).
Since using the pyroelectric effect changes in temperature convert to voltage changes
, so the  Pyrooszillator does not work only on the principle of a conventional electric oscillator ,
but of a kind of hybrid of pyroelectric transducer and electrical oscillator (see figure).

As this  Pyrooszillator conflicts with the circumstances of the scientific thermodynamics
it works without an electrical power source and still electrical energy
i sprovided to a supercapacitor .
The suspected energy source could also be from what the German psychiatrist Wilhelm Reich
called Bionenergy from his Orgonfield research.
A Marcus Albert Reid had presented 2008 ( regardless of Weber) a similar principle under the name " Crystal Cell"  and claims to have an unexplained power of 1 mW observed at 23 degrees Celsius.

For more see:
http://www.psiram.com/ge/images/b/b3/Pyrooszillator.jpg

http://www.borderlands.de/Links/Heat-Trap-Lecture-090912-Zurich.pdf
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Farmhand

Why can't the motor be replaced with a simple coil and the reed switch replaced with a mosfet or bjt ? If that is self running then almost any coil switching set up should be able to self run as well. Maybe the black electrolytic capacitor is a very small battery in disguise. I've got some that look like that and I considered slipping a capacitor plastic cover on them to make them appear to be capacitors, which they would very much so appear to be with some capacitor plastic on them.

Or the loop on and loop off could be opposite to what we are led to believe.

Cheers

hartiberlin

Hi Groundloop.
well done with the circuit diagramm, but I believe, the LEDs 1 and 2
might be the wrong way around ?
As the Schottky diode as it is used this way normally blocks already the Back EMF
I wonder if the LEDs would not be reversed in the circuit to at least conduct some of the
BackEMF pulses back to the positive pole of the caps ?

Or are the LEDs only there to keep the voltage at the caps not going to high by
shunting current away, if  their treshold voltage is reached ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
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Pirate88179

I believe that second cap is a super cap, or memory cap as they are called sometimes in the surplus catalogs.  I have that exact same cap right here in my hand.  It is as Groundloop says: .47 F 5.5 volts.  I can light a couple of leds with it for a long time.  That is almost 1/2 farad at 5.5 volts so there is a good amount of energy there.  Using it in a JT type circuit will make it last a lot longer still.  This is the second super cap I had ever purchased after finding out that I could use them like a battery.  (I have obtained many more since then...some very large)


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