Selfcharging cap circuit from Larskro fake or real ?

[hartiberlin]

Larskro published his 3rd video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI_EfWRepIQ

(Edited, I just corrected the link to the right video)

The circuit diagrams from Groundloop and TK are right, now you can see all the red cable connections to
the switch.

He now removed the 2 LEDs. ( I don´t know, if the 2 LED  polarity was right in the circuit digramms,
but these are probably not so important in the circuit as he removed them now..)

But unfortunately no more infos.. He just only turned the circuit around..
So it still could be a RF induced effect or a hidden battery inside the motor...
Who knows...
He has to come clean, as in the past he had a faked device...

Regards, Stefan.

[hartiberlin]

Hi TK,
well done,
can you remove the freewheel diode from the Reed Relay ?

[gyulasun]

Larskro published his 3rd video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln3YVVZbpNo

The circuit diagram from Groundloop is right, now you can see all the red cable connections to
the switch.

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Hi Stefan,

The link you gave is for his first video.

This is the link for his 3rd video:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI_EfWRepIQ    as I posted in Reply #35 above.

Gyula

[TinselKoala]

Larskro published his 3rd video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI_EfWRepIQ

(Edited, I just corrected the link to the right video)

The circuit diagrams from Groundloop and TK are right, now you can see all the red cable connections to
the switch.

He now removed the 2 LEDs. ( I don´t know, if the 2 LED  polarity was right in the circuit digramms,
but these are probably not so important in the circuit as he removed them now..)

But unfortunately no more infos.. He just only turned the circuit around..
So it still could be a RF induced effect or a hidden battery inside the motor...
Who knows...
He has to come clean, as in the past he had a faked device...

Regards, Stefan.

Argh. It is always something. No measurement of the climbing voltage : I have no doubt that the cute litte motor will run for a while on the capacitor only, especially without the drain of the LEDs! But does the voltage rise, which was the most important thing?

The thick baseboard is also very maddening. Any good craftsman can hide a lot of stuff in there without it showing. This is probably a deliberate Red Herring, though, just a tease on his part.

[TinselKoala]

Hi TK,
well done,
can you remove the freewheel diode from the Reed Relay ?

No, it's a completely sealed up plastic 14-pin DIP package , I probably can't mess with it without destroying it totally.

I may have another one in the box that I can try to disassemble. They are -- or were, in the last century -- available without the diode, though. I just can't find any other reed switches at all in my stash right now.

The relay is SPDT and I tried hooking an inductor to the other contact to try to get a collapse spike from that one but I couldn't figure out how to get it to go back into the circuit without killing it, since it's timed 180 degrees out-of-phase.

I have considered trying to make the little motor from scratch, and using a Hall sensor or even a mechanical commutator for the switch.