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tesla zpr generator cosmic energy

Started by tturner, May 26, 2014, 12:47:38 PM

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tturner

sorry to sound so demanding... i was reading another thread called confusion on teslas self acting motor and someone said they had heard about free energy by the ambient ether which is dynamic not static so mabey someone could help me with that also someone talked about figuera ive seen a thread round here either here or energeticforum but just wondering if anyone got it working successfully

Farmhand

Well Here's my almost to scale 1: 38 or so model of Tesla's Colorado Coil when he had 40 secondary turns.  :D Frequency is way to high in the 750 kHz area. But it can light up 50 watts of incandescent globes near the transformer using other resonant transformers. And it works well as a spark gap transmitter for Morse, anyone listening to the radio on AM near 750 kHz can hear it quite well break into the radio transmission.  ;)

Without the break out point it can contain the energy if too much input power is not used. And it's a lot less noisy.

Test run with break out point.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nkJtrKCdFg

As we can see there are some differences and similarities with the last transmitter patent device.


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Farmhand

Quote from: tturner on May 29, 2014, 09:09:11 PM
sorry to sound so demanding... i was reading another thread called confusion on teslas self acting motor and someone said they had heard about free energy by the ambient ether which is dynamic not static so mabey someone could help me with that also someone talked about figuera ive seen a thread round here either here or energeticforum but just wondering if anyone got it working successfully

No I don't think there is any success on the Figuera project as yet,

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forest

Quote from: tturner on May 29, 2014, 08:06:45 PM
well i think the world need free energy so im searching for free energy i thought had found it way before with his pierce arrow but ive searched for that so much with no luck. im in an emergency state for something that works or can be built/manufactured and be practicle. im 22 and this has taken over my mind im obsessed but cant really understand whats being talked about exactly on this subjects so im looking to educate myself or go back to school i was hinking chemistry but idk. sos help


That's good, just don't listen too much to experts, question every statement , ask and search for yourself. And keep in mind that among many inventors of free energy devices there were many simple guys, not much educated ...yet they did it !
Read Tesla european patents also  ;)

Shanti

Nice work farm!!!

My replication was much smaller I think I took a kind of toilet paper roll as extra coil and about a 30cm dia primary/secondary...

Quotewhen he had 40 secondary turns.

Yep, but I think you also realized that Tesla went down with the number of secondary windings as time progressed. IMHO exactly due to the reason I mentioned (smaller secondary impedance).
In the end IIRC he was around a ratio of about 1:10 primary secondary. but I would have to look it up again. It's quite some time ago...


Also the extra coil was wound quite in a distinct ratio, not really comparable to "normal" "Tesla coils" and it had IMHO astonishingly few number of turns...

And most important, quite some distance between the windings. As Tesla mentions again and again in the CSN, the distributed capacity of the extra coil was a real big problem.
And if you put it together like that, you actually get quite the picture as in the patent. With a big diameter but very small height primary/secondary. An extra coil with much smaller diameter and quite big spaces between the windings.

But I anyhow do not think it makes sense to make a magnifier in small scale. As there IMHO a DRSSTC has just way more power...

QuoteAnd keep in mind that among many inventors of free energy devices there were many simple guys, not much educated ...yet they did it !

I do not want to discourage anyone, but most of these allegedly FE-devices were never proven to actually work. Always some shady conspiracy theory pops up to explain, why it didn't make it to the market.

I personally believe only a very few of them actually really managed to get an FE device.
And of them even less IMHO actually really made a FE device based on a new principle (but still not necessarily violating current physics laws). Most of them IMHO just didn't realize how it really worked, and that the energy was actually coming from some conventional energy source. E.g. like my new speculation for the Gray-motor.

But IMHO the fact remains, that even those FE-inventions that did work, like the Plauson idea, were just not economic enough. It doesn't have just to deliver FE, it also has to compete with already known FE devices like photovoltaics, or wind generators.

Tesla sure was a genious, no doubt about that, but it is also obvious that some of his ideas and statements were obviously completely wrong.
I do not want to blame Tesla for this, as science at that time just hadn't the knowledge, it has now. And it also could have been, that some of these strange Tesla ideas were correct. But as it showed, they weren't.

And in relation to allegedly electronic FE devices in OU forums: I have yet to see any electronic circuit which isn't explainable by conventional physics. And if you propagate a new theory violating current physics (and don't come now with quantum effects...), you first have to show at least one experiment violating it. But all these allegedly FE effects from BEMF/CEMF, which Lindemann/Bedini/Bearden and friends propagate have not shown any special function or any OU up til now...
And they are already at this for decades...

Where I personally really think there's some really precious stuff in it is Schauberger's stuff. But he has been the most misunderstood man, I have ever seen, much worse than with Tesla. Schauberger has been completely "captured" by the esoterics, so that no serious scientist dares to occupy himself with his ideas.
Although some of them are IMHO pretty neat.

Also if you read his later patents you will recognize that there is absolutely nothing esoteric in it, it is straightforward.

At best I like his idea for the propulsion of airplanes.
We all know, that in theory an airplane does not need energy to fly (if it remains in the same height), e.g. as an example a balloon.
But what needs the excessive energy is the air resistance.
We cannot get rid of this resistance. But instead of it being just losses, we can use it as additional energy source for propelling the aircraft, so that the energy needed for propelling it, is much much smaller.

This was IMHO the basic idea behind the Repulsine.
You first generate an underpressure in front of the plane (for this you need energy). This underpressure will then be the reason that the air friction will be concentrated onto a small point at the inlet of the Repulsine. There a tremendous friction and heat is generated. Here he then uses this friction and heat to make molecular reactions with the air molecules with the help of additional things, like catalyzers, water and some other stuff reacting with the air (as a kind of additional fuel). This in the end results in bigger molecules in the air (e.g. more complex nitrous molecules) or ozone (O3), etc.. In the end what you get is a smaller volume of air, getting pushed out of the Repulsine than what got in. So in total if this thing is running the total air volume around the aircraft gets less and less. And this increases the underpressure situation in front of the aircraft. So that in the end, the aircraft gets pressed by the air itself forward into this underpressure zone.

BTW: Schauberger himself stated, that these higher molecular nitrogen molecules built, will actually finally descend to the earth and be a good fertilizer. So instead of bad exhaust fumes, you have something usable.
But that is not 100% true, as the Repulsine obviously needed a motor itself for functioning. But as said before, the energy needed for this motor is much much smaller than in a conventional plane.
This at least was, what Schauberger was propagating.
He even did let the exhaust fumes of the combustion motor driving the Repulsine into the reaction chamber itself. Like that he could use the waste heat and additionally part of this exhaust gas (CO2) gets also synthesized together with the other molecules to bigger molecules, now also with a bit C in it...

Or as he said it: My machines use the energy for propulsion which conventional machines waste due to friction. That's also the reason why his machines worked in relation better and better the higher the speeds, as then more and more energy from the friction contributed...

Also funny: He stated, that if his machines were widely used, it would decrease the total air pressure, so that now everyone benefits from air conditions like high in  the mountains. LOL

If it would really work, I don't know. But I doesn't sound very esoteric, does it.

But I got far too offtopic here, Sorry...