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Trolls, skeptics, cynics. negative thinkers your future is lmited

Started by steeltpu, May 30, 2014, 12:39:29 PM

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SeaMonkey


TinselKoala

Chris said,
QuoteYour neon possibly acts as a part of the spark suppression cct. the cap absorbs the increasing voltage until the neon breaks down. you *may* find your reed wont last as long without the neon.

Maybe. In the demo video, the reed switch was giving problems, sticking, with the larger cap and neon hooked up and the neon firing. When the neon stopped firing I knew that the switch had seized. But since adding the tiny cap, there have been no troubles at all with the reed.
The neon will definitely keep the spike voltage from getting out of hand. But I think the small cap gives just the tiny "softening" of the spike edges so that the switch contacts don't fail.

Does this also kill the "overunity" effect from reeds? Well, since I find no OU and I'm using the little cap.... so it must be. Right?

SeaMonkey

Quote from: TinlKoa
But I think the small cap gives just the tiny "softening" of the spike edges so that the switch contacts don't fail.

Aye, the Kettering Ignition System included a necessary
capacitor (typically 0.22uF) across the Breaker Points
for similar reasoning.  But, nonetheless, tungsten migration
from one contact to the other gradually occurred until one
contact had a cone shaped depression and the other contact
had a conical extension which fit precisely into it (the depression
in the other contact) when the contacts were closed.

Electric Current does amazing things...

CuriousChris

Quote from: TinselKoala on June 02, 2014, 04:40:56 PM
Chris said,
Maybe. In the demo video, the reed switch was giving problems, sticking, with the larger cap and neon hooked up and the neon firing. When the neon stopped firing I knew that the switch had seized. But since adding the tiny cap, there have been no troubles at all with the reed.
The neon will definitely keep the spike voltage from getting out of hand. But I think the small cap gives just the tiny "softening" of the spike edges so that the switch contacts don't fail.

Does this also kill the "overunity" effect from reeds? Well, since I find no OU and I'm using the little cap.... so it must be. Right?

Yes that's exactly what the cap does. No matter what type of switch you use when opening a switch to an inductor you need to protect it from the massive voltage spike.

I don't doubt your tiny picofarad ceramic capicitor is totally destroying the overunity effect. Thats why we in the government teach everyone to use capacitors in spark quench circuits. It's really a clever ruse to hide overunity.

I guess these clever people here have discovered our secret. We will have to shut down this forum and arrange for everyone who has ever read it 'have accidents' to protect our control.

CuriousChris