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Akula eternal lantern 4

Started by MenofFather, June 01, 2014, 01:15:57 PM

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MarkE

Quote from: Void on March 09, 2015, 04:01:21 PM
Yes, I would think the first thing any reasonable person would do is at least do some basic and simple checks with a voltmeter
to check for a hidden battery.  While someone who is very gullible might not do such basic tests, I expect most anyone
who is going to be potentially spending any amount of money or promoting such a device would do such a very obvious test such
as checking for hidden batteries, and probably do a lot more in depth checking on the circuit as well. This whole thing about
hidden batteries really doesn't seem too likely at all considering that Akula's German business partners have been working
with Akula for quite some time now. So, if not hidden batteries, then maybe a disguised super cap, but to power that many LEDs
and the driver circuitry for a week (and possibly longer now) from a super cap or two is not too likely, as well, and would probably get
picked up when checking for a hidden battery anyway. :)

As an example to help get a rough idea, lets say you have a 25F super cap disguised as a lower value electrolytic cap.
Super caps of that capacitance size are usually rated at a max of 2.7V.
So, if fully charged, you have a stored energy of 91.125 Joules in the 25F super cap (at 2.7V).
Over 24 hours (86,400 seconds) that would supply an average input power of  91.125J/86,400s = 1.055mW
The LEDs plus the driver circuitry itself are likely consuming a fair bit more power than that, so even
a 24 hour run time with a 2.7V, 25F super cap would not even work. A whole week of continuous running and you would need
quite a bank of super caps, which the circuit clearly does not have. Also, a super cap takes a fair bit more than just a quick connection
to a battery to charge right up to 2.7V. Really, with even just a little thought it becomes clear that a hidden battery or super caps are not
very likely at all here. ;) The circuit has also been running for at least a week while wrapped in aluminum foil as well, so
even the possibility of a hidden wireless power transmitter appears to be unlikely, and I would guess they have probably done
a few more tests/checks to rule out a hidden wireless power source.
So, what is left?

All the best...
Evaluating energy to check the feasibility of stored energy is a reasonable thing to do.  There are 504,800s in a week.  So, you need ~505J/mW drawn from the circuit.  If we grossly assume 50.5% efficiency, then around 1kJ is required for each mW continuous output over a week.  A single CR1220 delivers ~350J.  Each cell is 0.5" dia x 0.08" h.  It seems Akula has plenty of space in his capacitor volumes to fit a bunch of such cells.

Void

Quote from: MarkE on March 09, 2015, 05:07:12 PM
Evaluating energy to check the feasibility of stored energy is a reasonable thing to do.  There are 504,800s in a week.  So, you need ~505J/mW drawn from the circuit.  If we grossly assume 50.5% efficiency, then around 1kJ is required for each mW continuous output over a week.  A single CR1220 delivers ~350J.  Each cell is 0.5" dia x 0.08" h.  It seems Akula has plenty of space in his capacitor volumes to fit a bunch of such cells.

Hi MarkE. Again however, a simple voltmeter check will pick up any hidden batteries,
so not very likely here...
All the best...

Hoppy

Quote from: Void on March 09, 2015, 05:27:58 PM
Hi MarkE. Again however, a simple voltmeter check will pick up any hidden batteries,
so not very likely here...
All the best...

Agreed, especially if this simple check is not in the best interests of both Akula and business partner(s) to show publicly.  ;)

Void

Quote from: Hoppy on March 09, 2015, 05:38:28 PM
Agreed, especially if this simple check is not in the best interests of both Akula and business partner(s) to show publicly.  ;)

Hi Hoppy. Well, they don't really have any reason to show such details publicly.
Any potential investor will most likely do such tests for themselves under their own conditions, and
not take anyone's word for it. ;)

Are you suggesting that you or anyone else would trust it if they showed such a voltage check in a video?
You know you wouldn't trust any such test shown in a video. People would immediately post
comments saying that the voltmeter is rigged, or they are not making proper connection to the
circuit, or whatever. People can repeat the same suggestion about hidden batteries over and over again, but
repetition does not make it any more likely, at least not to me anyway. ;) Yes, it is possible that someone
who is very gullible or too trusting might not do such basic and obvious tests, but just not very likely for anyone who
is planning on spending some significant amount of money to invest or license the claimed technology...

P.S. Basically, the way I look at it, is Akula and his business partners would have to be awfully dumb to think
they could fool serious investors with just a hidden battery in the circuit, don't you think? That just doesn't
make much sense... :)

All the best...

synchro1

Quote from: MarkE on March 09, 2015, 04:36:46 PM
We have two different claims and two completely different demonstrations, but you demand that they both must have the same explanation.  That's just silly.Dr. Stiffler's "Spatial Resonating Frequency" is ordinary electromagnetics.  It results from materials reflecting and propagating electromagnetic waves.  I don't know what object you believe has a SRF that varies with the earth's magnetic field.  Outside of flux-gate magnetometers I am pressed to think of a device that would have such a behavior.  Anyone's claim that they: in a desktop sized device located anywhere near the surface of the earth and therefore immersed in both the relatively weak and very constant magnetic field of the earth extract induced electric energy energy from that field is false.  No time dependent change in B x l means no induction.

@MarkE,

The impotant difference is between the "Spatial Resonant Frequency" and the "Self Resonating Frequency" of the same object within or outside the Earth field, not any variation caused to the object by variations in the field.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FOq7-WsL5c

These "Spatial Frequencies" are important because as Dr. Stiffler points out: "There are particular frequencies and groups thereof that will cause a lattice response".

The lattice response Dr. Stiffler refers to involves opening a little door through which energy leaks in. This effect has nothing what-so-ever to do with time dependent induction from the "Earth Field".