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DaS Energy Overunity ?

Started by DaS Energy, June 25, 2014, 03:39:29 AM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: DaS Energy on June 27, 2014, 07:45:08 PM
Hello Tinsel Koala,

Wattlow Heating do provide Kw heating for different fluids. The 0.076 1*C a litre of flowing water in one second is a quote, using a tank heater.

Provide the link that supports your claim, please.

I have provided the links to the original Watlow (there is only one "L" in the company name) documents and I have worked the math and shown my workings, that refute your claim, and I have even shown where it likely came from, either a misreading or a failure to apply units correctly.

You have provided no support whatsoever for your mistaken claim.

QuoteUsing the tables for heating water in this
https://www.watlow.com/reference/files/wattage.pdf
and converting to metric/SI, we have 1.9 kW to heat 5 gallons of water by 140 degrees F (from room temperature to boiling, so less than 100 C rise).
So that's 19 liters of water raised by about 75  degrees C in one hour, this takes 1.9 kW applied constantly for the hour.
So if you did it in one second instead, this would need 1.9  kW x 60 secs/min x 60 mins/hour = 6840 kW for one second. But that's for 19 liters. One liter would thus require 6840/19 = 360 kW applied for that one second. But that's just for 75 degrees rise. So for 100 degrees rise we have 360 x 100/75 = 480 kW for one second.

This is in very good agreement with the calculation from the definition of the calorie (4.19 Joules per gram per degree C.)

ETA: I see they even give a nice equation for heating flowing water:

kW = Liters/min. x Temperature Rise (°C) x 0.076

So using that we find that raising one liter per minute by 100 degrees C takes 7.6 kW. One liter per second will thus take 7.6 kW x 60 secs/min = 456 kW.

DaS Energy


Hello Tinsel Koala.

1 litre flowing water rises 1*C in one second using electric heater 0.076Kw.

DaS Energy is not into child games. We not here to build yours for you. We don't even care if you build one or not. We have made the engineering's available for those who wish to proceed.




Pirate88179

Quote from: DaS Energy on June 27, 2014, 11:14:25 PM
Hello Tinsel Koala.

1 litre flowing water rises 1*C in one second using electric heater 0.076Kw.

DaS Energy is not into child games. We not here to build yours for you. We don't even care if you build one or not. We have made the engineering's available for those who wish to proceed.

What a bunch of crap!  Are you running a scam here?

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

LibreEnergia

Quote from: DaS Energy on June 27, 2014, 11:14:25 PM
Hello Tinsel Koala.

1 litre flowing water rises 1*C in one second using electric heater 0.076Kw.

DaS Energy is not into child games. We not here to build yours for you. We don't even care if you build one or not. We have made the engineering's available for those who wish to proceed.

1 litre rises 1 degree in one minute...  0.076 kw , If I was you I'd take take a minute (or two) to check your data before making baseless assumtions about overunity.

TinselKoala

Quote from: DaS Energy on June 27, 2014, 11:14:25 PM
Hello Tinsel Koala.

1 litre flowing water rises 1*C in one second using electric heater 0.076Kw.

DaS Energy is not into child games. We not here to build yours for you. We don't even care if you build one or not. We have made the engineering's available for those who wish to proceed.

There is something seriously wrong with you.