A Gryroscopic Form of Overbalanced Wheel - Motor then OU

[LibreEnergia]

I have asked this specific question to physics forums, if moving the flywheel on same axis in a ''bowling ball throwThis is basicly my idea that you just regurgitated, robberbaron.

To get the gyroscope precession effect with swinging arms, they have to swing crooked, wich makes everything structurally expensive and weak.

To use it like this cancels out other advantages that a flywheel has, its a effective way of transporting mass for low energy cost, it is a source of acceleration as well, alongside its teammates, the central drive and the one way bearing, with these a  system can be created.

'' action, but varying radius gains any advantage over non spinning weight, I got no answer yet.

You have to think of another design totally for precession advantage for implementation of precesion advantage, time machine-esque, more weird.

There is no energy advantage. It is not an 'effective way to transport mass for low cost' as you state. The energy requirement is the same if the masses are spinning or not. All the gyroscope offers is the equivalent of a lever or incline

[lumen]

An interesting effect here is totally missing.
If one simply spins up the gyro wheel and uses gravity to cause precession, then with the other end connected to a screw, the precession itself will raise the weight against gravity.

The precession force is equal to that of the gravity causing it, so if the screw threads are less than 45 degrees, the precession will screw itself up using only the force of gravity.
This is the next logical test in an over unity gyro device!

[TinselKoala]

An interesting effect here is totally missing.
If one simply spins up the gyro wheel and uses gravity to cause precession, then with the other end connected to a screw, the precession itself will raise the weight against gravity.

The precession force is equal to that of the gravity causing it, so if the screw threads are less than 45 degrees, the precession will screw itself up using only the force of gravity.
This is the next logical test in an over unity gyro device!

No, not "using only the force of gravity". You are forgetting that there is a huge energy store in the angular momentum of the gyro rotor. It is this source of stored energy that powers the precessional lift. And when you put in even more energy by forcing the precession-- that is, driving the system in the precession direction at greater than the "natural" rate... that is when the really interesting stuff starts to happen. Of course, to discover these facts you need the right equipment and you need to perform the right experiments.

[lumen]

No, not "using only the force of gravity". You are forgetting that there is a huge energy store in the angular momentum of the gyro rotor. It is this source of stored energy that powers the precessional lift. And when you put in even more energy by forcing the precession-- that is, driving the system in the precession direction at greater than the "natural" rate... that is when the really interesting stuff starts to happen. Of course, to discover these facts you need the right equipment and you need to perform the right experiments.

The gyro rotor slows only from friction and cares not if precession is present or not. It cares not if forced with or against it's precession direction or any other direction, the rotor remains constant except for some increased loss from greatly increased bearing pressure.
Precession force is also strong enough to increase the rotor RPM. Precession forces in ship gyros provide enough energy from the wave action to power the gyro itself.
Precession forces from gravity can provide enough energy to power the gyro itself!

Some concepts of gyro precession warrant further testing and showing a gyro elevating under it's own precession is on my next project list.

[gotoluc]

No, not "using only the force of gravity". You are forgetting that there is a huge energy store in the angular momentum of the gyro rotor. It is this source of stored energy that powers the precessional lift. And when you put in even more energy by forcing the precession-- that is, driving the system in the precession direction at greater than the "natural" rate... that is when the really interesting stuff starts to happen. Of course, to discover these facts you need the right equipment and you need to perform the right experiments.

Thanks for this post TK

Could the interesting effect of accelerating the precession lift be an acceleration of the gyro flywheel?

Thanks for sharing

Luc