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[picowatt]

NO, that left image is not viewing flim, its iron filiings around AC current lines looking END ON
Same  thing, in diagram on the right

Taken from JC Maxwells diagram of the dielectric and magnetic around AC lines looking END (of wire) ON (down the lines)

TA,

Thanks, I got it now, that's why I asked...

PW

[Mk1]

@all

I really like the work done here its reminds me of my own ,
what i learned is that what others thinks or like is not useful in research ,
sharing point of views is great as long as no one imposes there own on to others.

We each have used all our senses and brain to forge our view of the world ,day after day we each traveled our own way had our own experiences , and we should be pround of it , and respect others travel as we wish ours would be . What are you a repeat robot or a man.

I have seen things i did not like as much ..

At the original poster

I think you are on the spot , people of pure heart and intent have acces to the knowledge base , keep going you will do great .

You may or not check my vortex tread , theres is something about the force travels in the opposite direction in a magnectic medium thena paramagnetic with the same current direction .

Take good care

Best regards

Mark

[TheoriaApophasis]

Yes, but are we actually seeing the influence of the magnetic field on the H2 itself, or are we seeing motion by proxy due to repulsion/curvature of ions?  I don't have that answer, hence the suggested test.  Possibly this has been tested before, if so, what were the results? 

If we are to believe that what we are seeing is merely the behavior of H2 rising in a magnetic field, then should it not be possible to eliminate the electrolysis part altogether and just produce/inject H2 above the magnet?  A stronger NaOh solution with a thin sheet of Al on top of the magnet should liberate H2 without the need for electrolysis.  Would it not then also produce a vortex?

As you can see in my vid on using pyrolytic graphite, it will move opposite to the movement it is turned, regardless of CW or CCW
however that stuff is EXTREMELY diamagnetic.


Any comment on repulsion/curvature of ions on our parts is speculative,  however neither of those is or CAN drive the magnet CW or CCW when polarity is reversed.

There are 2 charging 'portals' for any magnet, the centripetal point, and the dielectric plane.
with the dielectric inertial plane taped off, there is only ONE 'PORTAL' of charge entry, (and the end-product resultant hydrogen spin movement) period.


Not to get "picky" (not regarding you), but the only true magnetism (in refined denotation) is the centrifugal,.... the centripetal is also magnetic however being convergent to reintegration and perpetuating (as all 3 'components' do) magneto-dielctric inertia, its properties are different from the centrifugal.


SAME way you can say  "well stretching a rubber band (magnetism) one way outwards /divergently is no different than releasing it and letting it contract convergently / inwards".

they are quantitatively the same force,........but wholly different qualitatively.

stretch a rubber band while touching your lip with it, feel it getting HOT (radiation / centrifugal) .......now let it contract on your lip (where you can feel it easy),.....feel it getting COLD (convergence, centripetal)

The "wonderful" magnet is the dis-equilibrium of fascination since it has macro-magnetic properties that are 'permanent' and self-sustaining due to field incommensurability, ....natures own little "Möbius loop" 


This is also why my SEED GROWTH experiments only show TRUE results when the seeds are exposed for X TIME period along the centrifugal edge, and NOT just on  "one side" , in which case results are perfect and always predictable IF you tape the seeds along the centrifugal edge, and NOT just "either side" then test them.

Remembering again, Ether is Ether is Ether. 

Possibly only atomic H is involved in producing the vortex, as it exists briefly before recombination to H2 (unsure how long).  But even then, if atomic H is required, although seemingly a bit more difficult, it may be possible to devise an experiment wherein atomic H is injected immediately above the pole piece to look for spin/vortex in the absence of an electrical field.
PW

Nope, lots and LOTS of other methods to show magnetic vortex that have nothing to do with zapping magnets or using ferrous testing media.

(a couple of those testing mediums produce amazing results)

I hope Tinman invents the next "X" and makes a fortune 

[TheoriaApophasis]

theres is something about the force travels in the opposite direction in a magnectic medium thena paramagnetic with the same current direction .

thats because, unlike ferrous accelerating towards a magnet centrifugally (bit complex explained in the book however) ,....... the paramagnetic is attracted to the centripetal.


WHICH IS ALSO why super diamagnetic materials (bismuth, pyrolytic graphite)  go nuts along the centrifugal but only bump across the centripetal point.


remember (or not?)  iron ball will NOT sit at the CENTER (centripetal) point of a magnet, ONLY its centrifugal edge


whereas a same ball, a magnetic ball, WILL ,    EASILY

A (seemingly obvious to me) point of future invention and insight will be made when people realize why a HUGE FLAT MAGNET (like my 6", really any magnet of course) ,.....its outer edge acts like a gravitational front accelerating ferrous objects TO THAT POINT.

The acceleration is dielectric in origin (not magnetic induction as is reported), its magnetic dilation resultant from dielectric constriction in the ferrous object.

[tinman]

Tinman,

Sincere thanks for your time and efforts.

Do you believe it possible to make a sufficient amount of O2 at the magnet (to allow visualization) by reversing the tank polarity?

As I surmised in a previous post, it may be possible that two different actions are being observed, a homopolar torque/motoring action and an ion "wind".  As H2 is liberated, negative ions form in the area of H2 production and these negative ions would then be repelled away from that immediate area.  As those ions carry a charge, their path as they leave that immediate area would be affected by the magnetic field.

If the above is true, using the same magnet polarity as in your H2 tests, reversing tank polarity to produce O2, and hence produce positive ions, should reverse the direction of the observed vortex immediately above the magnetic pole (reverse polarity ions should travel an oppositely curved path in the same magnetic field polarity). 

I surmise that when the tape is applied to the sides of the magnet, bulk current density in the electrolyte is lowered and the homopolar action is somewhat suppressed, particularly at lower currents.  This allows, at lower currents, the ion flow just above the magnet's pole to be more readily visible and somewhat predominant (as the pole area has the highest current density at this time).  As current is increased further, bulk current in the electrolyte becomes greater, and when sufficient, allows motoring to occur via homopolar action.

Anyway, it's just a thought...

Thanks again,
PW

I will give it a tr y tonight, but I would think the spin would be reversed-if not, then we reslly have some thinking to do. A problem is that very few bubbles ste produced from the magnet when used ad the anode-and my nickle coating is disapearing fast lol-may have to rescue some more magnets from older projects.
May place the magnet into a plastic holder, and use s\s wire on top of the magnet to eliminate the magnetic field of the small bolt