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[TheoriaApophasis]

I am no math wiz but this seems like you are saying that if you multiply a number by 2, then that result can always be divided by 2.

not what i meant OR implied.

Rather the extrapolation of the Aoristos Dyas, or 1, as posited in nature as we call a "golden section geometry" is merely the extension of 1, or 1 as extrapolated.

I said it was abstruse,
This is also why the Platonists said they didnt "discuss such finer matters (incommensurability)..........[with ordinary folk]"


Specifically, as contrary to the Creationist nonsense,.... complexity and beauty in nature is merely the extrapolation of 1 , or a multiplicative OF 1......, not due to some God, etc.

2 Varieties of nonsense, ala the smartest Greek minds was:

1. creationism  (god, etc)
2. Nihilism  (nihil ex nihilo), or crudely "atheism"


1. says "god did it"   (insane BS)
2. says  "1 and everything after 1 (2,3,4,.....) came from nothing". .....   Or that Given 5 Billion years, monkeys pounding on typewriters will produce a 30 Vol. Encyclopedia

both 1 and 2, from the premise of the finest minds who ever lived, are insane twaddle.


Of course most dumb people think Atheism = denial of god,.... but thats not so, thats only half of it, .......genuine Atheism is metaphysical Atheism.

The first mention of Atheism, is by the Greeks in the term atheos, which is in reference to Greek Platonism as refers to the Nous (will/mind/citta/spirit/soul) as found in passage: (Phil 26e-30d) and not to a supernatural persona, i.e. God. The immanent-only materialistic pantheism of metaphysical Atheism is an aphilosophical position holding that everything which exists is no more extensive than its physical compounded materiality; that is, that there are no kinds of things other than physical things. This anti-divinity of Atheism is the true and shadow-worshiping profanity that is the hallmark of Atheism, not its correct position that, as Plato and the Neoplatonists argued for as well, that there was no Supreme-Being as creator of the cosmos.
     
     Metaphysical Atheism is Atheism, in true and in whole. That some who deem themselves Atheists also admit to, as they would say 'something' is certainly not in question, however these people are not in fact Atheists but lazy Agnostics and in most cases crypto-materialists; calling themselves atheists in but they merely deny God, is only a measure of their ignorance in of which they do not know the full scope of the very term Atheism. The Greeks in coining the term as progenitor for Atheism had meant, as Plato, Socrates, and Pythagoras before both, the denial of spiritual and immaterial divinity a-theos, or anti-divinitism. 

Atheists generally fall into three categories, vociferous materialistic agnostics, materialistic objectivists, and Creationist-rejects. The vociferous materialistic agnostics are the mentally lazy non-investigative types who have grown up in an "irreligious" setting wherein, which nothing religious or metaphysical is ever discussed, and upon seeing the absurdity within and among Creationists, has 'ripened' (rather rotted) into the position of an atheist. The materialistic objectivist, not far from his brethren the vociferous materialistic agnostic, has grown up in, and the possible study in depth of, physical reality and the modern 'cult of scientism' which falsely proclaims either a cause, a chemical, or atomistic explanation for all totality, either seen or otherwise; these very same idiot-breeds of atheists are the worst in that they are typically college well-educated idiots who are fond speculators upon the field which is outside their arena of study and insight, often trying to pseudo-intelligently posit a cause or chain of causes and or chemistry for any topic of study or investigation, including that of consciousness itself. These very same materialistic objectivists are often scientists, doctors, engineers, chemists, biologists or other physicalist-specialists. The last and most unintelligent variety of Atheists are the Creationist-rejects, who have just enough intelligence to conclude that the religion of their upbringing is a giant illogical and laughable contradiction. These same types of atheists are often seen professing their profound hatred of the very same God they deny exists to begin with.

copyright 1-2007 Ken W.

[profitis]

Theoria:'1. creationism  (god, etc)'

Probably born from instinct and common to all cultures through history.umbilical cord to father universe (I'm not seperate from universe instinct.I'm going to be weak oneday and die fear instinct).(Gota put this feeling into words ala 'god')

[Acca]

 TinselKoala  Hero Member  (self appointed enforcer (s)  of  science dogma)...

TOTAL NUMBER OF Posts: 11575 INSANE AMOUNT !! 

He has posted an incredible amount.. ?  Why ohhh.. Why ??

Why would anybody do that ?? ?

Sooo.. is he a single person ??

or a TEAM of  Gov. dis-information "Agents"  ??                        You decide ....  !!!!
 
Looks like the answer is below ...   


"The materialistic objectivist, not far from his brethren the vociferous materialistic agnostic,

has grown up in, and the possible study in depth of, physical reality and the modern 'cult of scientism' which falsely proclaims either a cause, a chemical, or atomistic explanation for all totality, either seen or otherwise; these very same idiot-breeds of atheists are the worst in that they are typically college well-educated idiots who are fond speculators upon the field which is outside their arena of study and insight, often trying to pseudo-intelligently posit a cause or chain of causes and or chemistry for any topic of study or investigation, including that of consciousness itself. These very same materialistic objectivists are often scientists, doctors, engineers, chemists, biologists or other physicalist-specialists."

from Ken's book..

Thanks for the excellent  "book"...


Acca..

Ps.. I do read all  [/font]all posts here ....

[profitis]

Theoria:'2. Nihilism  (nihil ex nihilo), or crudely "atheism"'


Probably born from the rebellious instinct(I'm going to assert my independance from the universe instinct.I'm a killer,survivor/strong warrior instinct.I'm in controll instinct)

[Pirate88179]

Theoria:'2. Nihilism  (nihil ex nihilo), or crudely "atheism"'


Probably born from the rebellious instinct(I'm going to assert my independance from the universe instinct.I'm a killer,survivor/strong warrior instinct.I'm in controll instinct)

"There are no atheists in foxholes."  I have no idea who said this but it makes sense.

Bill