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Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos

Started by TheoriaApophasis, July 13, 2014, 04:20:12 AM

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sm0ky2

Quote from: wattsup on March 18, 2015, 08:56:34 AM
Four simple questions.............

Question 1: If this is a magnetic vortex effect and since vortexes in this universe are know to be spinning entities,
what is the rpm of this magnetic vortex and do all magnets have the same rpm?

Question 2: If you rotate a bicycle wheel, at what rpm will the human eye stop being able to see the spokes turning
and only see a blur?

Question 3: Did @TA see the hypotrochoid with his own eyes or was it only visible with a fast action camera?

Question 4: If the magnetic vortex is strong enough to make physical ferrofluid shapes or manipulate physical
magnet paper atoms to physically align and produce those effects, why is it not strong enough to produce the real
anticipated result of such a spinning force and that is, it should only produce a blur if the force is a dynamic vortex
versus a static central force?

1) Beyond the assumption that a vortex is the correct description of magnetism, There are too many additional assumptions that must be made for me to look at it from that perspective. So I will skip this question for now...

2) The blur RPM will vary from human to human, given the difference in the optical response time. Generally there is a range
of velocity which humans can perceive, before it just becomes a "blur" or appears as a solid object/line/etc....
Also, there is "apparent movement", this is when a series of stationary images, or periodicity of pulses which the eye + brain will see as movement, when in fact, what is being observed is not in motion relative to the observer.

3) If he did, he should be easily able to teach us how to replicate this experiment and "visually" see this for ourselves. From what I understand from his books, videos, and what he talks about in here, this is just his (conceptual) theory.

4) This can be a complicated issue. If the vortex is an actual process of magnetism, and if it is I am not convinced that it is the
ONLY process that magnetism can undergo.....  but IF it is a process::  things like magnetic viewing paper, or particles of ferrous material, chunks of iron, etc.  we also have the induction effects to deal with, which means the particles will align themselves, not only to the field effect, but also to EACH OTHER !!!  this could prevent the observation of the "active" vortices.

We can take this down all the way to the atomic scale, where we have a negative charge circling a positive charge, creating a magnetic dipole effect. These particles are interacting in such a manner, as that could produce a vortex. So I am not prepared to entirely dismiss this theory out of hand. but we need more information.
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

TheoriaApophasis

Quote from: sm0ky2 on March 18, 2015, 05:44:17 PM
4) This can be a complicated issue. If the vortex is an actual process of magnetism


You, like everyone else,..... thinks the term VORTEX is some magic word and refers to something REMARKABLE and Unicorn-level "unusual"  ;D ;D ;D


a precessional hyperboloid  CREATES a Vortex


of THIS FACT, none on earth can deny.  NOT ONE.




Quote from: sm0ky2 on March 18, 2015, 05:44:17 PM
but IF it is a process::

Force and motion (centrifugal magnetic divergence) is DENOTATIVELY PROCESS as defined by the attributional creation of space and a PHASE SHIFT measured IN TIME.

PROCESS has no clearer definition.


Quote from: sm0ky2 on March 18, 2015, 05:44:17 PM
ONLY process that magnetism can undergo.....


You might as well posit that water is "likely to also run uphill in flow"  ;D



Quote from: sm0ky2 on March 18, 2015, 05:44:17 PM
we also have the induction effects to deal with

NO

Electromagnetic induction is the production of an electromotive force across a conductor when it is exposed to a varying magnetic field flux


The reciprocating magnetic field, unless varied in compound with respect to time , there is no induction of a "stationary" magnet upon a "conductor"


(there is however low magnetic permeability heating from close proximity diamagnetic materials / elements).


the stationary magnet is not MOVING, and therefore pressure mediation does not APPLY to create a VARIED change in magnetic flux densities and phase shifts which cause induction.



while the field IS moving and reciprocating, it is not varied in compound with respect to time to cause induction.

sm0ky2

Quote from: TheoriaApophasis on March 18, 2015, 10:24:06 PM

the term VORTEX is some magic word and refers to something REMARKABLE and Unicorn-level "unusual"


This is part of your psychosis, not what I stated nor implied.

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Electromagnetic induction is the production of an electromotive force across a conductor when it is exposed to a varying magnetic field flux

Apparently you need clarification
Note that there is no "electro" prefix attached to the term I used.

induction - referring to MAGNETIC induction : the effect which occurs when placing a ferromagnetic, or paramagnetic material into a magnetic field.
An internal magnetic field is INDUCED in the material, due to atomic-magnetic field-domain alignment.
This is the effect which causes pieces of iron, etc. to align themselves into a "pattern" when you apply a magnetic field.

Whether permanent or temporary, such induction would be resistant to any internal movements (or vortex) of the applied field.
I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

TheoriaApophasis

Quote from: sm0ky2 on March 18, 2015, 11:06:40 PM
An internal magnetic field is INDUCED in the material, due to atomic-magnetic field-domain alignment.

that is not the case, rather COHERENCY of the induced atomic object is/has/ occurring

every ATOM in the FING universe has its INTER-ATOMIC radius in Picometers SOLELY DUE TO MAGNETISM

Magnetic INDUCTION from outside this mass or atom is only causing resultant COHERENCY from the applied field of the matter or mass "BEING INDUCED"


Your insane premise supposes that no magnetic field EXISTED before induction, and THAT IS INSANE  ;D ;D ;D





Typically as is the case of the conventional understanding of magnetism, the creation of a magnet is not the 'aligning of domains'
however in microscopy this phenomena is seen as validated. The reality is rather that (see diagrams below) the incommensurability of
self-similarity within any and all magnets in creation creates inertial plane accelerations in every one of the trillions of atoms making
up the now electrified mass that is a "magnet". Acting as a single coherent body, the in phase electro-geometric nature of the new
"magnet" self-centers both the dielectric inertial plane at the spatial middle of the magnet as conjugated against and maximum
distance between either end of CW or CCW magnetic circulations, or rotations. Then the question remains, 'how does a magnet
'know' how to self-center the dielectric inertial plane after it has been electrified in the creation of this new magnet?'
The reason for this dielectric inertial self-centering is due to the conjugate magnetism resultant from electrification which causes
dielectric capacitance in the iron or iron compound which thereby expels a polarized Ether phenomena that begins decelerationreciprocation
at the spatial boundary (centrifugally) of the physical magnet. This inverse spatial-counterspatial conjugation (never one
without the other as is the case of all forms of magnetism) centers (rather concentrates, since the incommensurability of the dielectric
is at every 'point' along the "magnet") in phase the dielectric inertial plane at the physical centerline of the magnet as pressure and
field conjugations are always lowest-pressure seeking 'mechanisms'. In cannot exist any other way, logically, electro-geometrically,
and likewise this is evidenced from both experimentation which is undeniable by any, however explanations are lacking by all, until
now.


It is not the case to think that one has created in electrification, a "dielectric or magnetic laser (coherent phasing)" per-se (however
analogously this is rather accurate) rather it is the case that the self-aligning incommensurability of conjugate field geometry is
necessitated, logical, and cannot exist in any other manner, likewise this ordering (see further down below diagrams and explanations)
is identical to AC line magneto-dielectric geometry. Seeing things incorrectly from the side of magnetism "being made coherent or
aligned" in creating a "magnet" is incorrect, the resultant is accurate, but the chain of causation is utterly in error.
We might say, in a perfect analogy that taking 5 toy gyroscopes and spinning them up, before which they lay in a variegated
manner with their respective axles and felly-inertial hubs/rims pointing in various directions representing the pre-'magnet' mass
(however as is the case of the interatomic these 'gyroscopes' [not literally of course] of magneto-dielectric volumes are ever-moving
but ARE IN inter-atomic equalization in lowest-pressure states [unless of course it's a naturally occurring loadstone]); that in spinning
these gyroscopes up they will all stand on end with their respective axles all pointing in the same direction. These axles of course
represent the Z-axis spatially expanding and reciprocating polarized magnetism, and the driver, the impetus for all of this, the
gyroscopic flywheel, the true 'heavyweight' (in more ways than one) is the dielectric inertial plane which has been spun up (in
capacitance) from electrification.
Now, in a toy gyroscope, the flywheel is attached to the axle and one spins up the axle first, however the professional larger
gyroscopes are spun up by the flywheel only, which is the correct analogy of the creation of a "magnet". A magnet is not a magnet; it
is a dielectric object (explained in full below) with conjugated magnetism resultantly in the chain of magneto-dielectric causation,
dielectricity (in every way explained further on) is prima causa, naturally, rationally, and absolutely undeniably so, however obviously
co-eternal conjugate principles resultantly in electrification; where there is one there is the other (only in the case of the permanent
magnet and other AC / DC phenomena). However in the magneto-dielectric gyroscopic analogy, the axle and flywheel never meet at
their intersection points. Coherent phasing in the creation of a magnet by accelerating (by capacitance) the dielectric inertial plane
necessitates both dielectric and magnetic pressure gradient phasing, self-centering and circular polarized magnetic reciprocation in the
electrified mass.
So how do trillions and trillions of atoms in the mass of the 'magnet' self-align their magneto-dielectric fields? The same way 5
autonomous gyroscopes having been spun up align their flywheels in perfect synchronous manners and their axles likewise; X,Y, and
Z axis points between magneto-dielectricity in the creation of a magnet align by pressure gradients and dielectro-inertial gradients the
same way our gyroscopes analogy lines up all three axis point vectors. The true and ONLY power in both the gyroscope model and
the model of the 'magnet' is the flywheel, which is 90% of the weight of a gyroscope, and 90% of the power in any and every
"magnet" ever created. Now one begs to ask, if a magnet is 90% dielectricity, why do we call it a "magnet"? Very simple, dielectricity
is counterspatial, is centripetal, is inertial and does not act on (most) other phenomena, the resultant magnetism however IS spatial, IS
centrifugal (and centripetal), IS radiative, and IS polarized. Likewise children only see the puppet (magnetism) and never the
puppeteer (dielectricity). There is no (almost none) power in the axle, as meant the magnetism, it is the expulsion of magnetism
resultant from the cosmic model of the magneto-dielectric binding-system conjugation (see far below for diagrams and explanations).
As is the case (explained below), a true "magnet" is a dielectric object, whereas a 'magnetized' object (steel being magnetically
induced) is a magnetically dominant object such that it is merely magnetically induced to temporary magnetization by attribute of its
induction within the magnetic field in proximity to it; but it is not an over-pressure dielectrically capacitant object such that it is not,
has not been electrified, only magnetically induced from proximal magnetization by the genuine "magnet" (dielectric dominant mass,
or "magnet"). In the case of magnetization vs. electrification (true "magnet"), proximal magnetic induction aligns the dielectricity to
cause phase coherency of the magnetism, but this temporary magnetization is the reactance of the dielectricity to the coherent
magnetic field induction within the non-electrified iron mass. Likewise this dielectric reaction from the field induction of the genuine
"magnet" causes necessitated reciprocation, or polarized magnetization to appear only so long as the field of induction from the
"magnet" to the "magnetically-induced" (magnetized) iron or ferrous object, is present. Field incommensurability is inescapable; that
the iron becomes magnetized resultant to magneto-dielectric pressure-gradient alignments is necessitated.
However here is where our gyroscopes analogy ends, since in the genuine model of magnetic induction, merely bringing a
"dead" gyroscope in proximity to the 5 spinning gyroscopes would cause the "dead" one to spin up and align its Z-axis of magnetism
likewise to the other 5, but remove it from the proximity of the other 5, and it would 'stop' immediately without any slowdown
process between its pre-state and its induced-state of velocity. This is field pressure equalization. This is particle-free induction; this is
magnetic induction without electrification (in the creation of a permanent "magnet"). This absolute of field induction phenomena is
something Tesla understood and which is why future inventions CAN and WILL be made that can have an immediate dump of
momentum without any resultant end harmonic, or resultant inertia. Imagine going from 100 to 0 without the slightest forward
momentum.
Countless applications and inventions will unfold from the capacity to dump enormous field inductions in termination with zero
effects. This inertial momentum of induction is mediated solely by spatial, or polarized field proximities, not inherent to the system or
subject being induced, likewise induction termination in this case is non-local and therefore the effects are as well. However the inertia
(forward momentum) of mass has its own field termination in which momentum can be instantly dumped with no resultant effects on
the subject, from a non-local inductive source, but that is a subject for another article I will not discuss here.





Quote from: sm0ky2 on March 18, 2015, 11:06:40 PM
This is the effect which causes pieces of iron, etc. to align themselves into a "pattern" when you apply a magnetic field.

its not a pattern, its pressure mediation of magnetism and dielectricity at the core of every atom of the object being induced.



Quote from: sm0ky2 on March 18, 2015, 11:06:40 PM
Whether permanent or temporary, such induction would be resistant to any internal movements (or vortex) of the applied field.


you basically SAID that spinning waters up in X AREA (the subject, the magnet)  does NOT ALSO CAUSE LIKEWISE VORTEX-SPIN COHERENCY in surrounding waters  :o :o

but we ALL know thats bullshit, because it in fact DOES DO SAME  ;D ;D ;D



As such,.......BS, if that were the case, then acceleration would NOT occur due to induction from the magnet upon the coherency of the applied field of the induced OBJECT which DOES OF COURSE ACCELERATE in the direction of the induction.


Attraction by a magnetic mass to a non-magnetized piece of iron is created by an Ether-vacuum vortex, which naturally tends itself
towards equalization between the iron and the magnet. In presence of the Ether-magnetic field there is dielectric contraction in the
unmagnetized mass which, since dielectricity is counterspatial, means there is inter-atomic dilation pertaining to magneto-attractive
vacuum dilation. In shrinking the dielectricity in the atom, as it rebounds in opposition to the magnetic field, it dilates the magnetoatomic
volume causing magneto-Etheric 'attraction' (via induction and towards self-voidance of polarization) to the magnet which is
only a simplex pressure gradient equalization. Magnetism always seeks geometric/spatial equilibrium, as do all fields. The magnetonegative
pressures created in the atomic dilation of the non-magnetized mass is being 'filled' by the field gradient of the magnet.
This is a self-seeking dielectric equilibrium however in its root. Just as two magnets of inverse spin being brought together will
form a perfect spherical field before mating (which is a centripetal dielectric gravitative-like attributional inertia equalization), the iron
or other ferrous mass is a pressure-equalization seeking between the "magnet" and the stable iron. The field of magnetic induction
from the magnet to the iron causes acceleration of the iron TO the magnet (the dielectric-electrified mass) due to now-imbalanced
field pressures in the iron. Action at a distance (all forms) are field pressure equalization-seeking sinks. Acceleration of the iron TO
the magnet is resultant from creating a centripetal inertial vortex by means of magnetic induction, in the iron as flowing towards the
magnet, which is both how and why iron will 'leap' to a magnet. There are no particles mediating this (as espoused by Atomists and
GR and QM), only field pressures. Every gram of matter in the universe, ferrous or otherwise is sitting in its own (temporary)
equilibrium, either in a gravity field, or a magnetic field, or a dielectric field. As a crude analogy, in bringing a magnet near an iron
nail for example is a 'gravity field' (analogously only as meant) towards which the iron must 'fall', however this is just a negative
pressure acceleration of one to the other, and the 'gravity' in this case is dielectric, as existing dominantly in the "magnet" and as
conjugately induced in the inverse, magnetically, in the iron by which the iron being "magnetically induced" is merely the effect of the
magnetic induction from the "magnet" causing dielectric constriction in the iron nail which thereby causes magnetic dilation in the
same nail and therefore acceleration of the nail to the "magnet" which is the dielectric electrified mass with a dominant dielectric
charge. Induction acceleration of the iron to the permanent (or electromagnet) is purely field alignment by means of F.I. (field
incommensurability), within which all pressures are necessitated to follow field gradient parameters of self-similarity.
The "magnet" is out of equilibrium, in short, with a strong dielectric charge, and resultantly to this a strong magnetic attribute to
the so-called "magnet"; as such the magnetic Ether 'bubble' creates magneto-dielectric pressure imbalances in other sympathetic
ferrous structures (and non-ferrous at greater powers) materials which force their acceleration towards those objects out of
equilibrium. Nobody understands that all matter is a balance of field pressure gradients, and throwing one object greatly out of balance
, even if stable, due to irons magneto-dielectric 'elasticity' is but one very lucid example, with an extremely unclear understanding by
most peoples. This conjugate causation is not understood by modern science, however science is certain it understands magnetic
induction, however only very superficially so at best (and unfortunately with materialistic insane explanations). This at-rest
acceleration of the iron towards the magnet is of course due to magnetic induction, but is sourced firstly in the dielectric, and of course
all fields are Ether in nature; as such an Ether vacuum sink (field incommensurability) is created between the magnet and the nail
which forces acceleration of the later towards the former. All matter has its decelerant, and likewise has an accelerant. Dielectric,
magnetic, gravitational, centripetal or spatial or counterspatial. Conjugate perfection exists in nature, one spatial, the other
counterspatial, at which pressure gradients dance around a fulcrum of action-reaction.
As is the case between the "magnet" and the nail when 'together', whereas the nail is magnetized (magnetically induced), the
"magnet" is dielectrically saturated from electrification. Inverse to general understanding, the non-"magnet" nail is the magnetic
object (temporarily) and that which we call the "magnet" is in fact the dielectric object with secondary attributional magnetism as a
resultant from the process in its creation.
Magnetism does not operate by centrifugal movement alone because, while magnetism is definitionally polarized, it moves as
pressure dictates it must; its centripetal movement is governed by dielectric inertial pressures of the Ether in self-seeking equilibrium
out of space and time back to the counterspatial. Counterspace definitionally is the 0-point fulcrum from which all fields are manifest,
either atrributionally as polarized in magnetism, or centripetally and radially as in dielectricity, or in stable formats as matter itself

sadang

@sm0ky2

Quoteright series of discussions, but it was after we got bored with the "linear gates", we started assembling the magnets into spinners of all sorts. That is when the effect was discovered by one of the members here.

I lost my lab, so im having to re-gather supplies and whatnot.
My cubes should be here tomorrow, and i'll try to produce something I can share with the class...
If that doesn't work, i'll pick up a can of the Magnetix toys and figure out how we built the original thingy...

Got it! Interesting what that member made further with this discovery? I'm curious if he made free for all or want something else?

Bad to hear you lost your lab, good to hear you want to share with class your work and vision. That's the behavior that I also subscribe to!

---#---

@wattsup

Quote@all

Four simple questions.............

Question 1: If this is a magnetic vortex effect and since vortexes in this universe are know to be spinning entities, what is the rpm of this magnetic vortex and do all magnets have the same rpm?

Question 2: If you rotate a bicycle wheel, at what rpm will the human eye stop being able to see the spokes turning and only see a blur?

Question 3: Did @TA see the hypotrochoid with his own eyes or was it only visible with a fast action camera?

Question 4: If the magnetic vortex is strong enough to make physical ferrofluid shapes or manipulate physical magnet paper atoms to physically align and produce those effects, why is it not strong enough to produce the real anticipated result of such a spinning force and that is, it should only produce a blur if the force is a dynamic vortex versus a static central force?

Before, or, in case @TA tries to answer any of these, let me first open the OU.com Virtual Toilet because we all know @TA has a major problem with Verbal ncontinence. UV lights on, turbo-fan on, toilet seat down, seat belt anchored, ready for discharge. hohoho

wattsup

because these were formulated for all, here are my opinions:
1 - this is a too intricate question. Before to go further with the analysis, the vortex dynamics for a permanent magnet have to become a certitude. A deep one!
2 - at a specific speed for sure! but this is not the case for dielectric (ether) vortex of a permanent magnet. This in my opinion, represent a fallacy of thinking, because the spokes can not be associated with the force lines of a magnetic field, but just the opposite. A reciprocating vortex has its own reference system, and any external analysis will lead to a chain of thinking fallacies.
3 - The hypotrochoid can be clearly seen using a LEDs equipped ferrocell, or it can be intuited by the alignment of many tiny spherical magnets made to float in a large pot with water which has suspended above it a big magnet, oriented with NE poles in vertical position. Any hypotrochoid is only a 2D projection of a 3D vortexial complex dynamics (a precessional motion of a hyperboloid - here I have my own opinion that there is nowhere a precessional motion in the universe, it's just an error of interpretation, an impotence or a limited comprehension capability of the human mind).
4 - I suppose here you think in terms of mechanical action. Is not the case! Or as ken say: Field care only about fields! On a 99.999999999996 "empty" atom we can't discuss about mechanical interactions, only about our own interpretation of the measured values as being similar with the principles of classical mechanics. This point require a much longer discussion about the fundamental concepts such as force, static, dynamic, vortex, induction and the like, than my current short one. Anyway, as Ken emphasized the entire Universe from macro and above it to micro and bellow it, the Universe is only fields. Dynamic fields composed of only one thing, namely ETHER!