Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos

[profitis]

Raz:'Critic proof demo's in the real world does not exist. There is always going to be someone saying that this or that is not , or that it could be done this other way.'

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Wrong.if I shove a burning lightbulb infront of you that uses tungsten instead of carbon and it burns better,wouldn't the majority then say 'tungsten rules ok'? You bet your ass they would say it.


Raz:' What you want is everything brought to you in a formula ready to be digested and used to your own profit. An easy "hey now I an use that to build that free energy machine - (whatever comes to your mind)'

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Damn right I want ideas.I want to improve on others ideas and make money yes.but how can I do this if I don't own an infrared camera? Its not fair,only those guys who own infrared cameras can now steal apophasis ideas

Raz:' Now,.. if there is a vortex in the magnet , and in the future in can be proved by additional means besides what Mr Wheeler showed , what would you do?? Would you find another failure to his ideas ? Will you tell him to explain it to you in formula? -- My point is that you are not going to be satisfied ever.'

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Are you kidding? If he can show this thing and destroy critics like me with it then it will send ripples through the corridors of established science.I'l shutup and take his side to fight the rest of critics in an instant

 
Raz:' And if you see some truth in it , why dont you use your shiny gray matter and  device and experiment yourself that can prove /disprove it???'

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He was doing excellent job at manipulating and inverting the things that the relativists themselves cannot prove or disprove eg. reducing all matter and waves to a common entity and he should stay this course because here's a real chance of revolution with minimal EFFECTIVE criticism.he's correct,the relativists grossly neglect the essense of many things and should harp on that,take it further and simplify it.but when it comes to declaring a priori circular movements that have an effect on bismuth and on other externals he falls weak at the knees with evidence.how can I help to prove something which I don't have reason to believe exists yet? He's got the money,I already suggested like 3 different angles to take to reveal this supposed 'vortex' but no words from him? Why no redo of the bismuth expo in a better way?the bismuth expo if real can exonnerate apophasis

[sadang]

Great Raz. That's the kind of message that I would like to see here on this topic at least, if not rather on all forums about free energy and/or overunity claims. Not impositions of facts already known and understood, from guys who trow Maxwell's equations of electromagnetism and relativity in front of anyone as an ultimate truth about this Universe. This is nothing more than a dogma with its blind believers and not science at all.

If it can be discussed about Faraday's scalar component of magnetic field I think is also wise to talk about Ampere's scalar component of the electric field. And further of both these fields as arising from dielectricity, but not from what is now known as dielectric and dielectricity, but instead from the dielectricity or electrostatics seen as the first and closest manifestation to the luminiferous ether. Or with the word of Ken: "dielectricity is the Ether under stress or strain".

But I see you still think about the magnetism, dielectricity and electricity as something external to the observer. Pay great attention to these aspects, because they are crucial as fundamental premise for further development of any potential theory and materialization of it.

The time of mechanical rules and laws of the previous centuries in which the observer was allways seen as something external and separate (wrong premise - but in reality a subconscious conditioning not even detectable by conscious mind) has reached its limit.

Now if you will start from the right premise in reading the book of Ken, and will go back in time following the direct or indirect references he points to in his book, will comprehend much more than Meyl. Again, the first and correct premise if to forget about the empty space, and you as a separate and distinct entity in this non-existent space.

This image from Ken's collection could be a good starting point.

[profitis]

Sadang:'The time of mechanical rules and laws of the previous centuries in which the observer was allways seen as something external and separate (wrong premise - but in reality a subconscious conditioning not even detectable by conscious mind) has reached its limit.'

Yes heisenberg/schrodinger pointed this out in a clever way

[Raz]

Raz:'Critic proof demo's in the real world does not exist. There is always going to be someone saying that this or that is not , or that it could be done this other way.'

Unquote

Wrong.if I shove a burning lightbulb infront of you that uses tungsten instead of carbon and it burns better,wouldn't the majority then say 'tungsten rules ok'? You bet your ass they would say it.


Raz:' What you want is everything brought to you in a formula ready to be digested and used to your own profit. An easy "hey now I an use that to build that free energy machine - (whatever comes to your mind)'

Unquote

Damn right I want ideas.I want to improve on others ideas and make money yes.but how can I do this if I don't own an infrared camera? Its not fair,only those guys who own infrared cameras can now steal apophasis ideas

Raz:' Now,.. if there is a vortex in the magnet , and in the future in can be proved by additional means besides what Mr Wheeler showed , what would you do?? Would you find another failure to his ideas ? Will you tell him to explain it to you in formula? -- My point is that you are not going to be satisfied ever.'

Unquote

Are you kidding? If he can show this thing and destroy critics like me with it then it will send ripples through the corridors of established science.I'l shutup and take his side to fight the rest of critics in an instant

 
Raz:' And if you see some truth in it , why dont you use your shiny gray matter and  device and experiment yourself that can prove /disprove it???'

Unquote

He was doing excellent job at manipulating and inverting the things that the relativists themselves cannot prove or disprove eg. reducing all matter and waves to a common entity and he should stay this course because here's a real chance of revolution with minimal EFFECTIVE criticism.he's correct,the relativists grossly neglect the essense of many things and should harp on that,take it further and simplify it.but when it comes to declaring a priori circular movements that have an effect on bismuth and on other externals he falls weak at the knees with evidence.how can I help to prove something which I don't have reason to believe exists yet? He's got the money,I already suggested like 3 different angles to take to reveal this supposed 'vortex' but no words from him? Why no redo of the bismuth expo in a better way?the bismuth expo if real can exonnerate apophasis

Ok,.. I am going to give you a small credit point for being sincere in your answer. I think it is only in your mind that Mr. Wheeler needs to be " exonnerated ", and much less by a poster in this website. I guess he have the money like you said , but he already have proof enough. Your problem is that you cannot believe it. Turn it the other way and think about something that you are absolutely convinced and know it is true. Would you mind what whoever says? Mr. Wheeler already says he have no other motives than knowledge and he shared it here. Your compulsion is yours and no one's else. And why dont you forget about the damn bismuth and think about other things. How about Schrauberger maximus "Understand and copy nature". What is so hard for you to see about the vortex when everything that surrounds you from the microcosmos to the macro deals in cycles ,frequencies and vortices??? And they all constantly repeat. That is the pulse of life . And everything is alive. Go get a break ,have a glass of wine, find a job, make some money , undertand the book, buy your freaking infrared camera and stop whining.Maybe you can be saved after all....

[Raz]

Great Raz. That's the kind of message that I would like to see here on this topic at least, if not rather on all forums about free energy and/or overunity claims. Not impositions of facts already known and understood, from guys who trow Maxwell's equations of electromagnetism and relativity in front of anyone as an ultimate truth about this Universe. This is nothing more than a dogma with its blind believers and not science at all.

If it can be discussed about Faraday's scalar component of magnetic field I think is also wise to talk about Ampere's scalar component of the electric field. And further of both these fields as arising from dielectricity, but not from what is now known as dielectric and dielectricity, but instead from the dielectricity or electrostatics seen as the first and closest manifestation to the luminiferous ether. Or with the word of Ken: "dielectricity is the Ether under stress or strain".

But I see you still think about the magnetism, dielectricity and electricity as something external to the observer. Pay great attention to these aspects, because they are crucial as fundamental premise for further development of any potential theory and materialization of it.

The time of mechanical rules and laws of the previous centuries in which the observer was allways seen as something external and separate (wrong premise - but in reality a subconscious conditioning not even detectable by conscious mind) has reached its limit.

Now if you will start from the right premise in reading the book of Ken, and will go back in time following the direct or indirect references he points to in his book, will comprehend much more than Meyl. Again, the first and correct premise if to forget about the empty space, and you as a separate and distinct entity in this non-existent space.

This image from Ken's collection could be a good starting point.

So how will you visually represent this dielectricity?? As a corpuscle like Russell said? As tubes of force? As an elemental plane between the magnetic vortex polarities? Lets say I strain the ether, by cutting lines of magnetic force with a conductor---where do the dielectricity aligns itself regarding the conductor and in which plane? and how it "flows" or "stays" in the conductor ?