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AlienGrey

Quote from: Atommix93rdAtom1 on January 17, 2016, 08:20:58 PM
MR gray !

Get passed the I am so blind I cant see further than your nose nonsense ! You know perfectly well what I mean ! And I do not wish to detail the laser ...

I have one of these transformers in fact I have 3 different types but they are all very dangerous in the wrong hands like the hands of men that have a taste for guns ect ect ect .....

Its not just what you can do with them its what can happen to them over a period of time ! All these coil type generators are the same in that way and its to late now as they are soon to be everywhere ....

Would you like a device that you can point at water and the water explodes ? Salt water will just combust and you can shot down a passenger airline with it ? No ! Down the road from me there was 2 Islamic terrorists who had a bomb factory in there kitchen ! They were a second phase after 7/11 here in the UK ...

when you can fully adjust HZ to infinity and amps and volts the power laser gets smaller and smaller ..... ! The road ahead with this is going to be a hard pill to swallow !....... And the OU will soon be promoting them like sweats in a shop but there already on the net and its not coming with a warning like the one I am giving it .

This is a very lethal technology ............... far worse than a machine gun or a 1000 pound bomb !!! its very bad shit !!!



Well thanks for that, how many weeks have you been on here ? and it's taken you till now to come out with the bottom line ? If i were you I wouldn't go to deep into the 7/ 7 or 911 we all know they were the 'trigger' points an in side job, it's all over the internet 'you tube' and not just shit but 'facts'.

Stop being so paranoid if you had your way we will go back to the middle ages ! and i bet that's the plan!
just cool it.

Mr Sagittarius ;) yeah! Uncle SAMuel's  new mascot is actually 'Isis =(Mary) with Apollo's face, look at the statue of liberty's face! (they call it the new religion). you won't stop it they are the ruling class. It's their agenda. it's all about Egyptian Mythology to them !
Have a nice day ;) stay cool.


Acca

 Will the REAL clow(s) stand UP>>>>> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh Ahh.. It Tinsel Koala and the missing Brain  Tinman...clown....

Oh Ah....It's a freak show again here in by the two clowns ...


"As the Tinsel Koala clown said to the Tinman clown....!!!"


"Of course he is! I enjoy the clown shows at the circus, don't you? Every time they have a pratfall, we all laugh. When they go walking about in their huge shoes, with that big red rubber ball nose, it's hilarious! And that's what this clown is doing, over and over, with every post he makes.":

and

"Why even bother arguing with this clown.
He is all dribble and no action."

And
Tinsel cclown said:



"Now you're frothing at the mouth! You should speak to your doctor... you really need to have your medications adjusted, before your brain dissolves and starts running out your earholes!

Try holding your breath, stomping your feet and spinning around in a circle until you fall down! That's so much easier, and more effective, than PROVING YOUR CLAIMS -- which you cannot do, since they are all just figments of your overheated imagination."

Haa ha ha... now that is really funnnneeeeeeyyy.....



Acca..
Ps...

it's the poor and the weak from the evil clowns here...[/font]

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@CycleGuy

Yes I know it sounds crazy and I know you cannot think this way and I know even more. This is indeed encouraging because it shows I have to be very careful in the way I am exposing SC. Please remember that we are talking about something that for all intents is counter our present construct so of course there will be 
enormous chasms of counter-logic.

The main basis is this. What you are referring to in most cases are effects of action at a distance. One action occurs at point A and we receive a corresponding action at point B. I one case is your photon. You produce an energy at point A and receive an energy at point B and it is only human nature to think that between points A and B there needs to be a transfer of something for this to occur. Something has to travel from point A to point B for point B to respond.

This is where we have basically decided to complicate our lives to unlimited levels. In SC point A creates an atomic change and point B simply sees that change. It does not need a photon to travel from point A to then tell point B "Hey, something just happening at point A". Point B can see this because its atomic nature permits it to turn towards that energy source that is sees as being a new gravity source. You see that turn as a glitch on your monitor and understand it to be the effect of a traveling signal, a traveling photon, a traveling electron. We as our base nature need to fill in the gaps for things to make sense at our level so for us to abdicate any further correlations, we prefer to keep the invisible travel mode alive.

Even Einstien could not really understand action at a distance (3AD), and it is our inability to understand 3AD that is one main crux in how we work out logical explanations of our effects. Every time a coils pulses and another coil picks up that pulse, automatically there has to be something in between. The field is our automatic response. But what if the copper atoms in the pick up coil have the ability to respond on their own because that it their nature because the atomic make up permits nucleic spin (or slight turning) and what if that turning, as slight as it may be or as extreme as it can be is conveyed from one nucleus in the copper to next nucleus down the line to your monitor showing this wave form. Then there is no more field involved since there is no need for a field to be involved.

You can produce empirical data for every known effect. You can take that data and summarize 3AD as being action A produces a field that sends out its field fingers in all directions and luckily touches point B that responds with a glitch on the monitor. You can take that same effect and understand that point B just sees it without any in between action required. This puts all the responsibility or all the abilities of the effect hence all the onus on the atom itself. This is where we as OUers doing research in electrical effects have been blinded by a field being the cause of our effects. That is were we are going wrong and that is what is holding us back from realizing OU devices.

Unfortunately for me, any construct at this level has to agree with everything else out there and I understand this and accept it only because the final present will be a better understanding of how to produce OU devices, devices which will not resemble our devices of today because we presently build things based on field effects and electron flow and not because the effects are simply seen via SC.

I am not disputing empirical data because that is the cornerstone of our technical prowess, that is to produce effect and measure their reactions. The debate is on how you understand that data. You can decide that the field is in between and live and grow and even prosper. No problem. But there has to be a price to pay if we are wrong and one of those prices we are paying now is living in a world without OU. That price for me is to high and my orientation is to see why we are paying such a high price, and, from what I can see, the construct of our effects is the reason, not the data.

So I will try to respond to your comments in bold and see where that goes.

Quote from: CycleGuy on January 16, 2016, 06:27:09 PM
I'm sorry, there's just so much wrong with what you've said that I find myself unable to muster the necessary GAS to set you completely straight... as an adult, you should be self-correcting in your knowledge, yet you seem to have gone so very far off the rails of what makes sense without once questioning whether what you believe reflects reality. So I'll respond to only a few points below...

1) Hahaha yes life is hard indeed when two constructs collide. There is no need to set me straight. If you look up my past here, you will know that straight is my middle name. Anyways it is not a question of setting anything straight but if after all this both can come out a little less wrong, then we are both winners.

The mass of a proton is very nearly the same as the mass of a neutron, but they are not the same.
Neutron = 1.6749286E-27 kg = 939.56563 MeV
Proton = 1.6726231E-27 kg = 938.27231 MeV
Electron = 9.1093897E-31 kg = 0.51099906 MeV

2) Please, I know this but one less hair on your head does not make a difference and if you take the margin of error in those numbers you will quickly realize they are the same for all intents and purposes, also given that atoms of one type are also each unique in their way.

The magnetic properties of an element are able to be predicted based upon how its valence shells are filled, whereas I've done an audit of all elements, correlating their Proton:Neutron ratio and Molar Magnetic Susceptibility... there is no correlation between P:N and MMS.

3) Please again. Take a perfectly weighted ball with a perfectly positioned horizontal axis, what will it do when you let it go. Nothing. Now in the case of the copper atom nucleus, make a ball that is 9.4% heavier on one side of the horizontal axis then the other and now let it go, what will happen. The ball will turn with its "Heavy Side" pointing down towards the Earth core. From there you can extrapolate all the atoms and all their shells and realize that it is both of these that produce the attributes they possess and how they will respond to Earth gravity, magnetic gravity or pulsed gravity. If the nucleus responds on its own, why does it need a field? If that response can be conveyed from one nucleus to the next down a copper wire, why do you need electrons?

You're still conflating two disparate forces... please elucidate why you believe magnetism to be gravity and vice versa?

4) Because all the actual effects of the field can be explained via SC as nucleic spin conveyance. There never was any requirement for a field.

Let me give you one example. If you can understand #3, ok let's start.

You have rock atoms at the surface of Earth. During the night all those atoms have their nuclei pointing down to the Earth Core (EC) because they all know that there is one big gravity force some 3000 miles down. At sunrise, those nuclei now see a new gravity source so they start turning towards it but the force is weak so they start oscillating between the EC and the Suns position. At noon, with the sun overhead, the nuclei are really starting to Sway pointing almost upwards then falling back again to EC and this oscillation is so strong that the atoms heat up enough that you can burn your feet or even boil an egg on the rock surface. As the sun now starts its sunset, the nuclei are now in a lower oscillation and things start to cool down and during the night they can rest till tomorrow simply content on looking again at the EC.

Now ask anyone how the standard model describes this effect and you will soon realize for yourself which is more logical. You will inevitably get photons involved, going from the sun to Earth. WHY????? When the rock atoms already have this reaction built in.


So let's say our atmosphere, rather than being the density of air, were of a greater density... say that of the density of the salt water in the Dead Sea... would that thick atmosphere "keep you down" on the surface of the planet, or would you float to the surface of that thick atmosphere? According to you, you'd be pinned to the surface of the planet with so much force you'd be crushed.

Put another way, the atmosphere plays no part in "keeping you down" on the surface of the planet. The atmosphere is present because of gravity, it neither causes nor contributes to gravity.

5) This is not right. I am a lighter liquid so I can float in sea water but not in air.

I... I don't even know how to begin to rectify your misconceptions. I leave you to do so yourself. Suffice to say, you are so wrong that "wrong" is the wrong word to describe how wrong you are.

Of course, deep down you must know that there exists no massive objects in the universe which can repel each other via gravity, given that gravity is a distortion of space-time caused by massive objects which causes massive objects to seek their lowest energy potential by falling into a "gravity well"... whereas magnetism is a distortion of space-time that can cause a "well" or a "hill", and thus can attract or repulse accordingly.

Two different forces, both acting on the QVZPE field to distort it. In fact, magnetism can affect gravity, mediated through the QVZPE field, and conversely, gravity can affect magnetism, mediated through the QVZPE field... but they are still separate and distinct forces.

6) OK, think of this. If the Earth core was a true blue Neo Magnet what happens? Trouble? That's because the volume versus strength of a neo surpasses that of the Earth core at the same surface. Get it. The neo magnet is just concentrated gravity. The coil is the same thing. The copper atom responds to gravity. Pass a magnet in front of copper wire and the copper atom nuclei will turn and follow that central stronger gravity source. Remove the magnet and the atoms turn towards the EC. No field is required and no electrons need be bothered as well.

One way of looking at it is that gravity is warped space-time, whereas magnetism can warp space-time. So in effect, you're half right... gravity is a "well" in space-time, but you're neglecting the other half, the "hills" in space-time that magnetism can create... you'd be less wrong to say gravity is magnetism, but you'd still be wrong.

7) Wow. Warped space-time. The final frontier. Would make a good movie. I know just the guy.

Gravity is the biggest and only honcho around. Our coils are just furts in the windstorm that we have given all these meta-physical attributes of fielding, electroning and dreaming of warped fields, field collapse, flux (well I like flux when it's only in the core but that's just SC in action). Casimir effect is what? You have two plates full of conductive atoms and you guys are worried about the space in between, always somewhere else but the atom itself. You gotta laugh at the irony.

From the start I mentioned one experiment and thus far it has not been done. This for me is a great quandary given all the experiments man has deemed fit to spend from public coffers done in the name of QM, collidors and every other scientific effort, this one experiment has not been done and this is a great concern. During this very simple experiment all scientists should just stand up and place their bets because this would be a field breaking moment. So why have I not seen this done? Just asking.

It's really a double standard. You energize copper coil and you pick it up with a copper coil and then you say there is a field and electrons. Where the hell did they come from? They come from your imagination because you did not need to exchange electrons man and you don't need a field between an energized coil and a pick up coil. The coil is picking it up on its own. If every damn atom had to be assisted by a field and some electron to produce reality, we would never have materialized. The universe would still be a mish mash of havoc.

OK, the sense of smell of a dog. Or a Shark sensing blood from miles away. Where does it come from? A field? Electrons? No. Atoms sense other atoms no field required. Same goes for our coils. Why would that sound so far fetched? It would only sound far fetched if you spent your life like me on this side of the fence. Of course it does, but it's true man. Microbes figured it out a long time ago and look what happened? Why do certain plants harbour certain atoms and others harbor other atoms? Chemical affinities are the same thing but the scope of this is so vast that it will take many more years to express SC to its fullest form. That's not my fault. I'm just the piano player sit'n here writing a song. Hope it won't make you go ding dong. But whatever, that's not my fault. 


By what means is this "spin conveyance" being mediated? Or are you describing a magical process that requires no mediation? Do you not know about quantum tensors? What you're really describing is energy transfer from atom to atom, mediated by the QVZPE field. It's called the Exchange Interaction, the underlying reason why magnets exist in the first place. When we create a magnet, we force a material into a state in which it is conserving exchange energy, at the price of a higher electron kinetic energy. This higher electron kinetic energy causes the electron to throw off more Larmor radiation in the form of virtual photons (which we perceive as magnetism) due to that higher kinetic energy and thus higher angular acceleration. In addition, all those electrons in the bulk of a magnet rejecting out-of-phase QVZPE field modes damps electron precession, causing a less chaotic electron orbit and thus a more coherent magnetic field.

None of the above.

Here's a basic primer to start you off:
https://gravityandlevity.wordpress.com/2015/04/19/where-does-magnetism-come-from/

Wow, such a revelation. Keep thinking that and you will easily repeat the last hundred years of running on the spot.

Here's what I wrote in another post:

All matter rejects QVZPE field modes longer than its radius. This has been found to be the basis of the mass which matter has. Energy and mass are interchangeable under Einstein's famous formula, thus the amount of energy that matter rejects in the form of QVZPE field modes longer than that matter's radius is responsible for the mass of that matter.

Or, as I wrote in another post:
In other words, I was right. The QVZPE field density is right on the verge of concretizing mass, but there's an energetic hurdle it must get over in order to do so. That explains why virtual particles don't stick around for very long (the fluctuation in the QVZPE field density is short-lived... it's a wave (or more to the point, an interaction between two other waves that constructively interfered and built up a large enough resultant wave that pair production could occur) that's damped when the virtual particle pairs are created, and smeared over a longer time period as those virtual particle pairs disappear back into the QVZPE field).

It also verifies the mass-energy density and radius of the electron by comparing it to the known vacuum energy density and radius of the proton and adjusting the calculated mass-energy density of the electron until the two match up... not surprisingly, the "size" of an electron is equivalent to the Compton wavelength. That's a good verification to have, but more importantly:
Which means the energy from the QVZPE field that the electron is "interfering with" due to it being matter is the energy it is using to maintain itself in orbit around the nucleus. It's using the QVZPE field modes it is excluding as a "springboard" to propel itself. That's the strongest evidence yet that the QVZPE field provides the energy that keeps matter stable by preventing electron capture.

I'd be interested in learning more about this Spin Conveyance, predicated upon it not being another case of Wheelerism. Thus far I've found a paucity of information in searching.

OK, so what is Quantum Vacuum? What is Zero Point Energy? These are all ideas as well man. So I guess QVZPE is in the same limbo as everything else, just sounds so nice but you still require a high degree of faith to entertain these in your reality. Makes it no better then SC at this stage so you have to balance things very carefully. It is easy for you to talk about QVZPE and fields and electrons as if they live next door. While you question SC, this will give you the grand opportunity to question everything else and put all of them at the same level, then see which one rises not because of mass acceptance but only because one idea has to fit them all.

SC can explain all these effects but it does not mean they become evident after one minute of questioning and five minutes of reflection. Everything depends on HOW the experiments were run. Some of these effects took me years to work out and more will require more time to work out and in that process many other action/reaction states will be discovered with SC. This is just the beginning. Once my doc is almost ready, because of course given the wide ranging ramifications it will never be complete, I will PM you a copy for a preread.

I am not planning on doing all of this alone. I think that once the base is set (AND OPEN SOURCED) in a way that can be easily understood, right away those in research who can make the proper correlations will take this and bring it to their own levels. So this is as much a learning experience for me. I am not here to do any more then one person can do so again, I do not have all the answers but once this base is set, anyone will be able to expand on it.


I started my first draft a few years before but officially on November of 2010. At that time it was a fledgling idea with basic notions that I started to put into real life comparisons using EE on my bench and realizing that what EE says is not exactly the case. During the process, things required fine tuning which I did and put them back into the critical meat grinder, threw away the fat and kept working on the lean parts so today I would say it is 70% ready, but I cannot wait any longer and will put it out soon, complete or incomplete. Why? Because my only real motivation in all of this is to help OUers work their devices better but soon realized this cannot be quarantined to OU alone. Unfortunately this touches everything and because of that, many years have past. More then I wanted.

Our time is running out and if this rock should blow, I need to get this out to as many people as possible so it is in our hands for the next round of man from dark age to technology movement. I really fear a worldwide calamity is about to occur and this will make man start over and if we can start over with SC, this time around the results for man will be better then they are now with this one world crap and organized academic and banking world crime syndicates running the planet like it was an open cash register. I fear that I and most of us will not be here to see it, but for me, it is a chance for the future humans to change their course and work with the atom instead of dreaming with the field. Hmmmmm Not bad, I'll have to keep that last line handy. hahahaha

Maybe one other question for you. If you could eliminate everything notion that is related to action at a distance, how much of present notions of science would disappear? So if that could be replaced with "direct influence" it would not change the science or the data but how many notions would disappear. Then, I would ask, is it better to advance with a backpack weighing 100 pounds or one weighing 10 pounds when both provide the same level of survival? hehehe

One more. If you wanted to control the world, you will quickly realize you need to push the world in the wrong direction so you are the only one smart enough to know everything, would you maybe invent a notion of fictitious fields and electrons and have people believing in this and then just sit back and say "As long as the field and the electron are involved, I know that no one will ever discover or reach OU and therefore, the state of our stranglehold remains secure". Just look at it from all angles man. How can you advance on a need to know basis? You can't. You will just be treading water year after year and you will be no closer to the shore. This is our life right now just treading around in circles dependent on top academia to throw out a few useless bones for us to suck on while we continue treading more.

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AlienGrey

What so you mean the electron doesn't exist, so why did they use glass between old tram line over head wires, what's that it saturates because the energy runs between the cables and in glass says Young Eric D yea! some one cries then mumbles till it saturates just like the gap and the arcs across with out the dam glass ;-) what ever next, so electrons just slows the dam flow down mumbles young Tesla as he secretly chuckles away to him self !

Struth Shela where did you find that ?

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Quote from: AlienGrey on January 18, 2016, 09:21:23 AM
What so you mean the electron doesn't exist, so why did they use glass between old tram line over head wires, what's that it saturates because the energy runs between the cables and in glass says Young Eric D yea! some one cries then mumbles till it saturates just like the gap and the arcs across with out the dam glass ;-) what ever next, so electrons just slows the dam flow down mumbles young Tesla as he secretly chuckles away to him self !

Struth Shela where did you find that ?

Ummmm. What's the actual question? If it is the first few words of your post then NO, they do not exist as traveling in our wires and no they do not exist as covering our atoms.

Imagine, all atoms covered with electrons, you, me, our wires, our food, our air, our ground, we then never touched anything but electrons. So your finger should just be zapped each time you touch anything. So we should be able to use calcium in our wires instead of copper. Do we?

OK, when something does not make sense looking at it forwards, let's look at it backwards. Why do atoms have such a variety of nuclei. What's the use when the outer electrons are doing all the work of our effects. May as well say the nuclei is a dummy former for electron migration. That's what they want you to think man. Keep that idea in mind and we will continue to be the great powerless bozos we are today.

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