Nov. 10th, 2013 Successful Over-Unity Experiment

[NathanCoppedge]

My guess is....Mr. Hand.

Bill

If the downwards motion is placed onto the beginning of the following lever in the series, you will note that the previous lever has returned upwards to its start position, so in theory the proportions are very close, in fact, to creating a perpetual cycle. It just requires a slightly different mode of operation. It's kind of like springs that don't go dead.

Duly noted, I hope.

Most people forget that there is an implicit advantage in upward motion. It can be compared to getting a cannon shot without an explosion, which is really a remarkable thing. It's not equivalent in energy terms unless it's built on a large scale. But still, the potential is there. I hope you will see that irony is not the only option about this very real reality.

There are a lot of dead ends you can choose in reasoning about perpetual motion. It doesn't help that perpetual motion is, after all, a specialty. But who would expect honest criticism from people outside of the field, if they worked in a physics laboratory, for instance. Some of the above comments are excusable but contextually unenlightened.

[gauschor]

I see. Your explanations come back very honest. Hopefully the questions didn't bother you too much. At least people in this forum can now understand what hinders the progress.

[TinselKoala]

It really sounds as though you are almost completely unaware of the history of your chosen topic. Here is a good place to start. You really should read every page of this website:
https://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm

The fact that you are sure that your design will work, but you are not a builder yourself.... combined with the fact that you won't take the analyses and judgments of people who _are_ builders to heart, yet you want someone of them to build your device anyway...  is kind of a kinky windup, don't you think?

Yes, the fact that your device cannot return to the exact start position without the addition of energy from your hands or other sources like precocked or prepositioned levers does in fact mean that your system, that part of it anyway, is not overunity."Very close" does not count for anything. A heavy flywheel on good bearings is "very close" to being a perpetual motion machine all on its own. All you need are negative-coefficient of friction bearings. Unfortunately these are perpetually on back-order.

[NathanCoppedge]

Why not build a decagon (ten devises in a circle) to make the lift high enough.

To be clear, the device is designed to have enough and equal lift within each of the modular units, as shown in the video. I DON'T mean that there is some kind of segmented springed apparatus. What I mean is that the track, the lever, and the fulcrum are meant to be duplicated in a polygonal shape. At every end-of-subcycle the altitude is the same, which I believe is made possible by the fact that the marble can rise during each motion within each modular unit.

Projecting the units higher and higher simply reduces the possibility of repeating the cycle. Not to be arrogant. From my point of view the current arrangement is just as impressive as raising it even further, because here it occurs within one modular unit, which seems rare to me.

[NathanCoppedge]

I see. Your explanations come back very honest. Hopefully the questions didn't bother you too much. At least people in this forum can now understand what hinders the progress.

Thank you so much! It's genuinely rare to hear such kind-hearted words in response to this subject.