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HABTEC SOLAR CONVERTER

Started by Philip Hardcastle, August 20, 2014, 07:13:01 PM

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MarkE

Maybe in his mind he thinks he can provide the proof.  He may think that the plans on his web site are enough.

Philip Hardcastle

Quote from: MarkE on August 21, 2014, 06:49:54 AM
Maybe in his mind he thinks he can provide the proof.  He may think that the plans on his web site are enough.


Mark I am not going to engage in your pointless posts, or those of that weirdo Sarcastic, other than to say I have posted a $10,000 dollar reward if my claims are not met with the device that you can buy for a few hundred dollars (no money comes to me).


I see no point in posting the names of professors who wish their names to be held in confidence to prove to you that I am not delusional.


Nor do I see any point in posting proof of operation on YT, as you and others will ignore it or otherwise claim it invalid / rigged.


The only way to get a physics breakthrough widely accepted is for anyone to be able to make one and see it work.


It is an exceptional claim and it requires exceptional proof to be accepted by scientists, only you doing the test will convince you, and the same for others until such time as the number of people that know that it works is sufficient to get the more sceptical to stop their incessant chant that laws cannot be broken.


ALL BREAKTHROUGH DISCOVERIES OVERTURN THE POSITIONS OF SCEPTICS, AND ALL REQUIRE A MASSIVE PUSH TO BE RECOGNISED.


However noting that people are too complacent to bother to build a small device, as described, I decided to get a mass produced device made.


Please feel free to buy a device from the Chinese, and make the claim for the $10,000 if it does not work.

MarkE

Quote from: Philip Hardcastle on August 21, 2014, 06:24:00 PM

Mark I am not going to engage in your pointless posts, or those of that weirdo Sarcastic, other than to say I have posted a $10,000 dollar reward if my claims are not met with the device that you can buy for a few hundred dollars (no money comes to me).
Mr. Hardcastle, I offered a speculation as to why you have not "eaten your hat" as you promised to do back in June if by Aug. 20 you had failed to disprove the Second Law.
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I see no point in posting the names of professors who wish their names to be held in confidence to prove to you that I am not delusional.
That reads as though you confirm my speculation:  You believe you have proof, and so feel you have no obligation to "eat your hat".  Am I wrong?
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Nor do I see any point in posting proof of operation on YT, as you and others will ignore it or otherwise claim it invalid / rigged.


The only way to get a physics breakthrough widely accepted is for anyone to be able to make one and see it work.
Is this a new idea for you?  If you held that view in June, then surely you recognized that you would need a working demonstration by Aug. 20th in order for others to believe that you had delivered proof.
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It is an exceptional claim and it requires exceptional proof to be accepted by scientists, only you doing the test will convince you, and the same for others until such time as the number of people that know that it works is sufficient to get the more sceptical to stop their incessant chant that laws cannot be broken.


ALL BREAKTHROUGH DISCOVERIES OVERTURN THE POSITIONS OF SCEPTICS, AND ALL REQUIRE A MASSIVE PUSH TO BE RECOGNISED.
That may be true.  However, you came up with the bet holding that belief.  You knew what you needed to deliver in order to convince skeptics. What have you delivered that you feel satisfies the bet?
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However noting that people are too complacent to bother to build a small device, as described, I decided to get a mass produced device made.


Please feel free to buy a device from the Chinese, and make the claim for the $10,000 if it does not work.
QuotePosted By: PJH on Jun 4th 2014 I will feel obligated to consume said Akubra if I cannot provide to you verifiable proof of a working device in contradiction to 2LOT, please state what excuse you will use on the 20th August not to eat your yet to be nominated hat?


According to the quote, when you made your bet, you said:  "if I cannot provide to you verifiable proof of a working devices in contradiction to 2LOT".   

Who do you think you have provided the verifiable  proof to?  Who has received these working devices?  If it was not the skeptics you challenged, then surely you can understand why your word has been challenged. 

To put it another way:  What evidence have you provided of your claims since you made the bet in June?


sarkeizen

Quote from: Philip Hardcastle on August 21, 2014, 06:24:00 PM
Mark I am not going to engage in your pointless posts, or those of that weirdo Sarcastic
Apparently I still bother you enough for you to earn a namecall.  Must be doing something right.
QuoteI have posted a $10,000 dollar reward if my claims are not met with the device that you can buy for a few hundred dollars (no money comes to me).
So let me get this straight.  You've never really come through on anything you've claimed and you have a reputation of reneging on bets on some parts of the internet.  The $10K isn't in escrow, there is no well defined criteria and you have a way of interpreting things which borders on delusional. 
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I see no point in posting the names of professors who wish their names to be held in confidence to prove to you that I am not delusional.
QuoteNor do I see any point in posting proof of operation on YT, as you and others will ignore it or otherwise claim it invalid / rigged.
You could take that $10K and pay for a third-party tester chosen by the skeptics.
QuoteThe only way to get a physics breakthrough widely accepted is for anyone to be able to make one and see it work.
This is completely untrue and stupid. 
QuoteIt is an exceptional claim and it requires exceptional proof to be accepted by scientists, only you doing the test will convince you
Absolutely wrong, and probably wrong about MarkE as well.  I regularly evaluate things in peer reviewed journals and consider them to be well supported.  Relativity had some critics one of them being Einstein himself this is why you fail at science.  You have no capacity to consider yourself wrong.  Every failure of yours gives you the choice: "Believe I've been a total moron for years" ooooor "It's almost working".  It's not hard to see why you keep choosing the later.

Quoteand the same for others until such time as the number of people that know that it works is sufficient to get the more sceptical to stop their incessant chant that laws cannot be broken.
Why are you treating science like a popularity contest.  If a million morons all say it works.  They're still a million morons.  If a billion people do the utterly crappy error-prone and IQ lowering $10 experiment of yours and get a positive result.   Then that still doesn't mean anything in objective terms.   You expect people who are not trained to do experiments performing an experiment with little value to be wrong more than right.
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ALL BREAKTHROUGH DISCOVERIES OVERTURN THE POSITIONS OF SCEPTICS, AND ALL REQUIRE A MASSIVE PUSH TO BE RECOGNISED.
I think this counts as raving nonsense.  How was relativity accepted?  Not through a "massive push" or having every moron in a garage build a "relativity device".   It was first through the adoption of the mathematical model, then experimental results and then meeting large scale predictions.  Some might call the discovery of helicobacter pylori as a cause of cancer would be a "breakthrough discovery".  How did it get accepted.  Again, it was a case of research building up.

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Please feel free to buy a device from the Chinese, and make the claim for the $10,000 if it does not work.
...and amuse me greatly by watching the $10K never appear.

Madebymonkeys

Quote from: Philip Hardcastle on August 20, 2014, 07:13:01 PM
This is a verified new technology that is free to use.

www.habtec.com

3 Chinese factories have been asked to produce proof of physics devices for general sale so that entrepreneurs can do due diligence ahead of becoming HABTEC builders. I had hoped the Chinese companies would have already (by 20th August) provided their price, but alas I am still waiting for a final quote.

Given that it's all open source, can you name the China fabs - could be useful for people to contact them, it might spur them on a little?
I can't see a reason why this info can't be shared?

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My wish, in giving this technology to the World for free, is to have as many people as possible get involved in a grass roots amateur driven revolution that will abate the use of coal.

Surely, if a self confessed expert can't show the world a working unit, amateurs aren't going to drive this forward!
Post a picture or the actual construction diagrams - these must have been supplied to the 3 China fabs for assy, right?

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I have turned down offers from a chief scientist of an Australian tech company (who carried out independent proof of concept test), and a leading University to discuss forming a JV, I am not interested in making a penny from HABTEC, but I will from IMP.....for phones.............soon.

Why not make money from it, you can then choose where it goes - 3rd world, Ferrari's, bigger home etc.
You hold the patent (if it's granted) so you can choose.
Letting, ultimately, big business sell the device means that, in the end, a few big companies will get all the Ferrari's!
Open sourcing so the little man can make it himself won't work, a big company has the buying power, skills and distribution channels to make it a worthless exercise to make it yourself.  They will also guarantee its operation, sell the mirrors etc.

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Cheers

Thanks.