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Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.

Started by synchro1, August 31, 2014, 09:26:50 AM

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MarkE

Quote from: synchro1 on September 06, 2014, 11:28:58 AM
@Quote from God's creator KooklaOllie:

Published on Apr 26, 2013
"I was inspired to build a little magnet spinner by synchro1's interesting work with a large powerful sphere magnet.

I don't have such a magnet, but I did have some little discs. So I mounted a disc magnet on an axle and support, very crude, and wound a couple of coils to exite it with. Assembled with hot glue and driven by the Interstate F43 function generator with a sine or a square wave, the little contraption spins at nearly 12000 RPM.

I've not started looking at output from the system yet. The coils are wired in series. I'll also be trying parallel wiring to see if there's a difference. I would like to use a self-triggering system so that the coil drive power can be triggered by the magnet's rotation directly, but the circuit I tried, posted by conradelectro, didn't work, so I'm still fiddling. Maybe I didn't have the right transistors".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-Xrwt-50AA&list=UUZFlznLV3IyePfbc2TfDetA


We can series connect two normal coils wound to nest inside the PVC coupling shown above, and run the precision bearing spinner from zero to the disintigration point with the Nunez setup.


@TinselKoala,

Get Help Bub!





That's a cool video TK made.  By "Nunez set-up" I am sure TK is referring to the drive capability of the audio amplifier that Daniel Nunez used in some demonstrations.  There isn't anyplace in TK's demonstration to put one Daniel Nunez's transformers.

MarkE

Quote from: synchro1 on September 06, 2014, 02:02:00 PM
I mentioned "Spiral Output Coils". Assuming the sine wave motor can only power itself, it can gain acceleration by sliding a solenoid output coil down a ferrite core like JLN does in this video: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUoyuiQTrRA&list=UUWBgBvRQ0nJkotHljpyrvGQ
Those demonstrations show changes in low efficiency configurations.  I don't see how you think that introducing something that kills efficiency is going to help you.

synchro1


@MarkE,


With all due respect;

Forget about Nunez! I'm not getting sidetracked by "Kiboshers" anymore. A signal generator can do the job just like it did in Koolaids video.


The important factor now is what I call "Lenz Delay Threshold". JLN has a different name for this Lenzless R.P.M. range. TK's crappy paper clip axle job just won't make the cut for O.U. sine wave output at 12K. All an LC tank spinner can do is surf the the sine wave. Any attempt to draw output kills the resonance. I got it to work with "Lenz Accelerating" magnet core output coils. JLN's using ferrite. The Hartley oscillator trimmer would need to increase capacity to tailor a "Lower" frequency  to compensate for the rotor acceleration caused by the output load.


The output cores can pass through neoprene "O" rings in the housing end caps, and the housing evacuated. The housing can be made from "Kryon" nano carbon tube alloy flak jacket material stonger than anything on the Planet. We can fit an air valve into the rotor housing along with the plexiglass viewing window and evacuate it with a squeeze ball.


We need to power the spinner up with the signal generator, then push the cores through the "O" ring seals close to the spinner then position the output coils as JLN does to shift the phase correctly for lenz acceleration. After the output coils are tuned, we can flop over to Tank Oscillation. There will be no need to ever want to stop it after that!

MarkE

Quote from: synchro1 on September 06, 2014, 09:00:43 PM
@MarkE,


With all due respect;

Forget about Nunez! I'm not getting sidetracked by "Kiboshers" anymore. A signal generator can do the job just like it did in Koolaids video.
Synchro1 you brought up DN.  Why did you highlight TK's reference to Daniel Nunez if you didn't have some point to make that related to his devices?
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The important factor now is what I call "Lenz Delay Threshold". JLN has a different name for this Lenzless R.P.M. range. TK's crappy paper clip axle job just won't make the cut for O.U. sine wave output at 12K.
I thought TK's simple little motor worked pretty well.  He wasn't chasing OU that I can tell.  No one else has achieved OU so you have an open field in which to work.
QuoteAll an LC tank spinner can do is surf the the sine wave. Any attempt to draw output kills the resonance.
Conventional theory says that is true for all resonant devices.  All energy that is removed decreases Q.
QuoteI got it to work with "Lenz Accelerating" magnet core output coils. JLN's using ferrite. The Hartley oscillator trimmer would need to increase capacity to tailor a "Lower" frequency  to compensate for the rotor acceleration caused by the output load.
The JLN scheme with the soft iron rod just looks like it saps power and efficiency to me.  If you have measurements that show a gain, I'd like to see them.
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The output cores can pass through neoprene "O" rings in the housing end caps, and the housing evacuated. The housing can be made from "Kryon" nano carbon tube alloy flak jacket material stonger than anything on the Planet. We can fit an air valve into the rotor housing along with the plexiglass viewing window and evacuate it with a squeeze ball.


We need to power the spinner up with the signal generator, then push the cores through the "O" ring seals close to the spinner then position the output coils as JLN does to shift the phase correctly for lenz acceleration. After the output coils are tuned, we can flop over to Tank Oscillation. There will be no need to ever want to stop it after that!
Do you have plans to build a test rig for your idea?

synchro1


@MarkE,

Quote from MarkE:

"The JLN scheme with the soft iron rod just looks like it saps power and efficiency to me.  If you have measurements that show a gain, I'd like to see them".


I'm not here to spoon feed you. Here's a link to JLN's web site. Type "regenerative acceleration" into the site's search engine, and review the videos.


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