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Aetheric Battery, New Free Energy Source From Aether!

Started by tinyCoder, September 10, 2014, 03:51:09 AM

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profitis

@kator do you have any ion exchange membrane on you at hand right now

Kator01

hello

@profitis unfortunately I have no membrane available. I am focused on different topics but always keep an eye on anything new
coming up.

I will give you a bit more insight into my work via mail.

But one thing I can state here: I am pretty sure that the EZ-Water is different from the Helmholz-double-barrier.
I would dare to say that EZ is the basis for building the Helmholz Layer. EZ is not dependent of external voltage-application.
The EZ Layers grow by light ! Once formed  charges are seperated. EZ becomes negative, normal bulkwater positive.
ph tests also confirmed this.

So by light shining on water a water-battery is created. See picture " A charged battery in water"
http://faculty.washington.edu/ghp/research-themes/water-based-technology/

At the left side the negative zone is limited by the Nafion-membrane. But Nafion is too expensive otrher hydrophilic surfaces
must work also.

Kator01


conradelektro

Quote from: tinyCoder on September 12, 2014, 06:21:11 PM
The metals used are only === steel plates (in the wet battery) and copper papers covering the jars === and taking the part of the other pole in the jar from inside, The wet battery idea is similar to the car battery (attached: Capture0) and i think that is Volta's Pile design. (Capture1) shows how the jars connected with battery, (Capture2) and (Capture3) shows the water cells structure, (Capture4) is a clear design of the device.

conradelektro, I'm translating from my language "ARABIC", keep asking but please be patient, more coming in details, everyone has the right to be skeptic but I hope we all keep doing well with each other as we are not in a challenge here, I believe we really need to help each other to find out something really useful from all this we have here.

Godspeed.

@tinyCoder: just to make sure that I understand you correctly:


Possibility one: There are steel plates and copper paper in one and the same generator?

Possibility two: There a steel plates in one type of Generator and there is copper paper in an other type of Generator?


Translating from arabic is not that easy. There are several dialects of "Arabic". Do you mean the Arabic of the holy Koran?

An other question: who has built the two pyramid contraptions on the photos posted by you? Have you built them? If it is not you, can you talk to the Person who built them?

About the challenge:

If someone makes an extraordinary claim, he is challenging the world to believe him. So, the challenge comes from you and the world (e.g. me) is reacting to the challenge. Your claim puts into question many scientific facts which people (e.g. me) have learned. And these scientific facts have been established by the greatest minds ever present on this world in the last few centuries. Your claims are very controversial.

I personally have no problem with controversial claims. And you should not have a problem with people reacting strongly (with scorn, or ridicule, or at least with not believing). Your best course of action (if you want some one to believe your claims) is clarity and precise specifications. Most people will only believe if they can replicate and replication is only possible if the facts are presented in a clear and understandable way. I think you get the idea:

1) Best, you first specify just one generator, the one which works best.

2) Start with a complete list of materials which are needed to construct it. This should be little work and you could post this complete list of materials soon.

3) Then (after it is clear what materials are needed) you concentrate on construction advice.

4) And much later, after the one generator has been replicated you can go on to other types of this generator (which probably needs a different list of materials).

In the past such claims as yours faded away after several months because no useful information was forthcoming.

Greetings, Conrad

profitis

Aha @kator you are partially correct.but you are underestimating the enormous forces of electrostatic exclusion.the polywater molecules are much like a polymer resin ie they are less mobile than the bulk phase and they have tethered poles of charge much like ion exchange resin giving rise to a compromise between the pull of the diffusion gradient and the counterpull of electrostatic gradient.a donnan potential requires absolute zero light input to manifest and is completely spontaneous.if you can get a-hold of some ion exchange membrane we can make history right here right now.I will tell you how

Kator01

yey profitis,

you are the expert..I even do not know the term "donnan". From what I know there are always some free H+ Ions present in water
and they will vent through the membrane and build up a potential. Why they vent trough I do not know.
But we have to wait until you have seen  the presentation of Dr.Pollack.

In the meantime I will learn somthing about the donnan-potential

Kator01