Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

[allcanadian]

@Chris


I always liked Walter Lewins video on non-intuitive, non-conservative fields. It is a peculiar thing that the crowd always refers to the most successful people as creative, intuitive and open minded. Yet we see so many people overly preoccupied with conformity, normalcy and the pursuit of mediocrity. It is strange that the people we admire could never be accused of such things.


You know I have haunted these forums for a while and my reasons were mostly academic relating to psychology. The fact that we may create our own walls which confine our thought to those of the crowd mentality. The crowd who watch others succeed then try to drag them down to their level of thinking. The best book I ever read was by Gustav Le Bon, The crowd a study of the popular mind... you should read it if you have a chance as it will explain many things.


Let those running in circles do so, let them eat cake, because the chance that they may help you on your journey is very small. There is no easy way in fact it is very hard because there is always that little voice in the back of our mind telling us to conform. I will tell you what, we will have a private chat and I will tell you what the magnetic field is, not what it does or appears to be or do but what it is fundamentally. It is amazing that something so simple such as the field could cause so much confusion and fear. I mean when I ask people what it is I see fear in their eyes which is unfortunate. We should never be afraid of what we do not know, we should embrace it because the unknown is our future isn't it?.


AC

[MarkE]

@Chris


I always liked Walter Lewins video on non-intuitive, non-conservative fields. It is a peculiar thing that the crowd always refers to the most successful people as creative, intuitive and open minded. Yet we see so many people overly preoccupied with conformity, normalcy and the pursuit of mediocrity. It is strange that the people we admire could never be accused of such things.


You know I have haunted these forums for a while and my reasons were mostly academic relating to psychology. The fact that we may create our own walls which confine our thought to those of the crowd mentality. The crowd who watch others succeed then try to drag them down to their level of thinking. The best book I ever read was by Gustav Le Bon, The crowd a study of the popular mind... you should read it if you have a chance as it will explain many things.


Let those running in circles do so, let them eat cake, because the chance that they may help you on your journey is very small. There is no easy way in fact it is very hard because there is always that little voice in the back of our mind telling us to conform. I will tell you what, we will have a private chat and I will tell you what the magnetic field is, not what it does or appears to be or do but what it is fundamentally. It is amazing that something so simple such as the field could cause so much confusion and fear. I mean when I ask people what it is I see fear in their eyes which is unfortunate. We should never be afraid of what we do not know, we should embrace it because the unknown is our future isn't it?.


AC

I find it quite ironic that anyone who espouses the virtues of an open mind supports rejecting reliable evidence in favor of BS that has been utterly and completely refuted.  If EMJ's got Bloch walls then where are his unaligned domains?  "Unaligned domains? We ain't got no unaligned domains. We don't need no unaligned domains. I don't have to show you any stinkin' unaligned domains!".   We see the same response for the supposed curl.  EMJ points to one of Professor Lewin's lectures for support.  But the lecture rather than supporting EMJ's claims includes three demonstations that each refute his claims.  I find it remarkable that anyone can consider that when evidence incontrovertibly refutes a claim, but the claimant adheres to their claim that the first person considers the claimant open minded.

[EMJunkie]

You are confusing the force of attraction with magnetic field (flux density, a.k.a. "B")
B is not responsible for the nail attraction force - its gradient is.

NoBull, You get the jist of the experiment though? Attraction/Repulsion - Pole Polarity vs Polarity.

Its gradient is an obvious thing, many know this already.

Regards

  Chris

[Pirate88179]

Bill - I did not ever say what you have implied that I said! Please get your facts straight! I quoted Walter Lewin, I will do it again just in-case you did not read my post: "So the Magnetic Field is INSIDE the Solenoid"

Don't bend FACTS to suit yourself. This is what he said! If you can not hear his words then maybe hearing aids might be of value to you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUUMCT7FjaI

Minute 30:17

My original Post just in-case you want to go and check it: http://overunity.com/14974/magnet-myths-and-misconceptions/msg431515/#msg431515

Just for you Bill!

What I implied?  What a joke.  You have stated that "modern physics" (whatever that means to you) refutes what MileHigh and MarkE are saying...then you mention Walter Lewin as an example.  So it was YOU that expressed/implied that Dr. Lewin backed up your position.

I am sorry if you got caught in your little attempt to deceive.  Possibly you figured that no one here has heard of Dr. Lewin, and that you could get away with it.

Well, it didn't work out so well for you now did it?

Busted.

Carry on,

Bill

[MileHigh]

NoBull:

I looked at your first question but is was not clear to me so hard to respond.  For the A Vector stuff and the Aharonov-Bohm effect, the effect is a quantum effect affecting the phase shift when doing a double-slit electron beam experiment.  I am no expert on quantum mechanics but I don't see that effect applying to harnessing power from some kind of transformer configuration.  I am pretty sure that is an invalid connection being made.  What I call the "free energy cottage industry" is rife with that kind of pitch-man business.

Then there is simple logic.  If you take a few physics courses and electronics courses, you go through the loop a few times taking courses covering electronics and that of course includes transformers.  Is it possible that getting power via the "A Vector Potential" would not already be known and studied and possibly applied?  It's just not possible.  And a "clamp-on ammeter guy" making a YouTube clip is not going to convince me either.

I did the double-slit experiment in junior college.  We did a physics lab with a HeNe laser and a 35 mm slide where someone took a picture of two fluorescent tubes to make the double-slit on the slide.  You aimed the laser at the slit and measured all the distances and crunched the numbers to calculate the wavelength of the laser.

MileHigh