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Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

Started by hartiberlin, September 27, 2014, 05:54:29 PM

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EMJunkie

Quote from: Pirate88179 on January 15, 2015, 11:30:50 PM
I only build stuff that has more than a rat's chance in hell of working.  So, no thanks.
Is this another way of your saying that you never did get O.U. then?  I mean, you either have it (good for you) or you don't.

Claiming that you have it (or had it) without any real proof or documentation is is a total waste of time for all concerned.

Bill

@Bill - I have noted your Opinion.


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   Chris Sykes - hyiq.org
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EMJunkie

@ALL

So we have established that Charge Carriers are Separated in a Generator! Positive on one Terminal and Negative on the other Terminal! This is Sine dependant of course!

Lenz's Law, is primarily Magnetic in Nature. It is the direct result of Current Flow in the Secondary Coil.

Yet the Secondary's Magnetic Field Vector Sums to Zero to the Primary's Magnetic Field!

Can a Tertiary's Magnetic Field Vector Sum the Secondary to Zero? Yes, it can!

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   Chris Sykes - hyiq.org
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Magluvin

Quote from: Pirate88179 on January 15, 2015, 11:07:46 PM
I still would like to see some documentation on the claimed "O.U." from that coil Chris posted.  If he has done it, great, Nobel prize time,
if not, then maybe he will learn something about measurements that he did not know.

This should be big news......let's see it.

Bill

Heck, I wanna build it.   ;D    Simple enough not to have to argue over it. ;)

Its interesting that the pickup coil gets any output at all.  If we wound 3 coils on the center post of an ecore, 1st coil wound, then second on the 1st, then the 3rd on top of that one, all in 3 separate layers, then connect 1 and 3 in series where their fields negate, there should not be output from coil 2. Or is there?

If we take a a standard transformer, 1 winding primary and a center tapped secondary and then disconnect 2 and 3 at the center taps and arranged them in series, but opposing, we should not get output from the new secondary arrangement if we have input at the primary.

So why is there output in the configuration that Chris has shown?

I used those examples to show standard transformers. Maybe layering is problematic for this idea.  I have seen transformers with separately wound coils, such as a microwave oven transformer, but it doesnt have 3 coils, let alone 2 outer coils of similar build and one coil between them, in line as Chris has shown. 

I built a coil like this, air core, but the middle coil was wound on top of the 2 oppositely wound coils butted in the middle. But I didnt try this configuration.  Also didnt operate it the same. Have seen many ways for this bucking config and actually passed it by as I felt I knew there wouldnt be any output.  ::) :-\   But apparently there must be, let alone questioning for more data or it is considered bunk. ;)

So instead of pushing for more 'required' ::) info in order to possibly have some belief in the claim, why not 'test' the claim, being it doesnt seem so difficult. ;D

Mags


EMJunkie

@ALL

Floyd Sweet said:

"If the directions of the two signals are such that opposite H-fields cancel and E-fields add, an apparently steady E-Field will be created. The energy density of the fields remain as calculated above, but the value of the E-field will double from E/2 to E"

Just some food for thought!

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   Chris Sykes - hyiq.org
   To Reach New Horizons!

EMJunkie

Quote from: Magluvin on January 15, 2015, 11:46:55 PM
Heck, I wanna build it.   ;D    Simple enough not to have to argue over it. ;)

Its interesting that the pickup coil gets any output at all.  If we wound 3 coils on the center post of an ecore, 1st coil wound, then second on the 1st, then the 3rd on top of that one, all in 3 separate layers, then connect 1 and 3 in series where their fields negate, there should not be output from coil 2. Or is there?

If we take a a standard transformer, 1 winding primary and a center tapped secondary and then disconnect 2 and 3 at the center taps and arranged them in series, but opposing, we should not get output from the new secondary arrangement if we have input at the primary.

So why is there output in the configuration that Chris has shown?

I used those examples to show standard transformers. Maybe layering is problematic for this idea.  I have seen transformers with separately wound coils, such as a microwave oven transformer, but it doesnt have 3 coils, let alone 2 outer coils of similar build and one coil between them, in line as Chris has shown. 

I built a coil like this, air core, but the middle coil was wound on top of the 2 oppositely wound coils butted in the middle. But I didnt try this configuration.  Also didnt operate it the same. Have seen many ways for this bucking config and actually passed it by as I felt I knew there wouldnt be any output.  ::) :-\   But apparently there must be, let alone questioning for more data or it is considered bunk. ;)

So instead of pushing for more 'required' ::) info in order to possibly have some belief in the claim, why not 'test' the claim, being it doesnt seem so difficult. ;D

Mags

@Magluvin

Youre onto it!

All information is in here: http://www.hyiq.org/Downloads/Guidelines%20to%20Bucking%20Coils.pdf

Let me know if you need help! I am happy to help!


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   Chris Sykes - hyiq.org
   To Reach New Horizons!