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Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

Started by hartiberlin, September 27, 2014, 05:54:29 PM

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Cap-Z-ro

Quote from: MarkE on January 16, 2015, 08:35:09 PM
One could make a parody of "The most interesting man in the world" from that. 

"... fill in description of acts ... He is the creepiest person on this web site." 

"I don't always troll referencing bodily functions, but when I do, I try to disgust.  Stay creepy my friends."

Great premise...but incorrectly applied.

A real forum troll wood have closed the loop.

Using a troll buster as a substitute didn't mut the custer.

Regards...


MarkE

Quote from: kEhYo77 on January 16, 2015, 08:24:49 PM

Irrelevant, I asked about the whole balance of energy exchange with surrounding space.
A suggestive fact might be that average temperatures are highest near the equator and lowest near the poles.  Is the reason for that:

a) Far more solar radiation less reradiative loss at the equator versus the poles?
b) A terrestrial process that pumps heat from the poles to the equator?
c) Something else?

Cap-Z-ro

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MarkE

Quote from: tinman on January 16, 2015, 08:33:44 PM
This supports my theory. If we are to call them north and south charges,then each charge of opposite potential travels in opposite direction until such time as they merge together. If one end of the compass needle points in the direction of the north charge,then the other end of the compass needle points to the opposite charge-the south charge.
From your drawing, there is a strong dipole across the meridian in the center of the ring from which the opposing north and south charges both emanate in opposite directions, circle around and cancel outside the ring.  Why do they attract and cancel outside the ring but not inside the ring?
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The north charge will travel from center of the loop outward in one direction(depending on current flow direction through the loop),and rap around the loop,while the south charge will travel from the center of the loop and travel outward in the opposite direction to that of the north charge,and rap around the loop in a counter direction to that of the north charge.-See pic below.
How can that be that across an infintesimally small distance in the middle a strong north charge and a strong south charge each form and go opposite ways away from each other?  Why don't they just cancel right there in the middle inside the ring?
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This would be dependant on the size of the wire,and the amount of current being passed through it. If enough current is supplied to the wire,then the fields of each loop would start to merge together to form on field to that depicted below.
Are you saying that you believe in linear superposition?  IOW do you believe that we can add multiple fields together mathematically and get the correct values for the total observed field?
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As above,and i suspect that the 1 meter distance between the two sets of loops is enough to keep the two complete fields seperate.
OK so go with that suspicion.  Where is north and where is south?

tinman

Quote from: MarkE on January 16, 2015, 08:50:57 PM
Are you saying that you believe in linear superposition?  OK so go with that suspicion.  Where is north and where is south?
QuoteFrom your drawing, there is a strong dipole across the meridian in the center of the ring from which the opposing north and south charges both emanate in opposite directions, circle around and cancel outside the ring.  Why do they attract and cancel outside the ring but not inside the ring? How can that be that across an infintesimally small distance in the middle a strong north charge and a strong south charge each form and go opposite ways away from each other?  Why don't they just cancel right there in the middle inside the ring?
If we drop a pebble into a bucket of water,do not the ripples form from the center and roll out toward the rim of the bucket,only to be deflected from the bucket and meet back in the middle?.

QuoteIOW do you believe that we can add multiple fields together mathematically and get the correct values for the total observed field?
Did i not say some time back that by adding small PM's together the field strength grow"s?
We need to get away from electromagnets for the time being,as we wish to find a way to gather an electrical power from the two opposite charges within a PM. The electromagnet also has an electric field to contend with-dose a PM?.
Im not even remotely interested in electromagnets,as they consume power to carry out the same job to that of a PM that dose not consume any power. My work is based around a PM-not an electromagnet,and i get the feeling Mark that you are trying to turn left here,when im trying to go straight ahead.

If we are to look at the static charge in the comb,are we to assume that the comb has a charge of only one potential?-is this the monopole equivalent?. Or is it the equivalent to that of a capacitor,where the two charges are sepperated by a dielectric(the air) and the paper is the opposite or neutral charge to that of the comb.