Stepped Gradient Magnet Motor

[gyulasun]

Hi Lumen,

I agree, the gradient concept has been done several times and failed to produce excess output energy in all known cases.  Perhaps the most known such setup and claim came from Harry Paul Sprain ( http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Paul_Harry_Sprain_magnet_motor ).

A more recent attempt was shown by member Honk in this forum, he designed and built an excellent setup:
http://www.overunity.com/3456/f-b-d-i-s-s-m-flux-boosted-dual-induction-split-spiral-motor/msg54032/#msg54032

Unfortunately, Honk did not achieve excess output either. 

If you feel like to start a new thread on your new concept, I will certainly be interested to read it and contribute if I can. 

Thanks,  Gyula

[lumen]

Yes, I suppose it would be best to start a new thread.
I remember a story about someone that put a small magnetic motor into a toy airplane and it just sat there running by itself.
At the time I thought if this was real then however it was done it must be quite simple to fit inside a toy airplane.

[gyulasun]

Hi Tyson,

I hope my reply#16 above did not discourage you from tinkering further on this project, for I included two negative examples on the stepped gradient magnet like setups.... 
In fact, these examples are why I drew your attention to the Werjefelt "compensation" method, to get over the sticky point without too much input power input.

Gyula

Hi folks, mounted 4 stepped neo stacks with rotor mounted and the results with the arrangement as stated is not so good.
The first 2 magnet stacks have a couple of stall spots between magnets, then after that, it repels along fine.
I thought it seemed to work well with hand tests, though with the rotor mounted it reveals the true functioning.
So, i will remove the magnets and place the strongest neo stack first and then step down with progressively weaker magnet stacks, still using repulsion mode.
Because the way it is now, it is causing the stall spots.
peace love light

[SkyWatcher123]

Hi gyulasun, thanks for your concern, no i haven't completely given it up, it's just this particular geometry and parts used do not seem to be the best choices.
I'm going to say you are correct, in that a radial geometry would be best, but more complicated to build, which is why i tried this design.
I need to give this some more thought.
In the meantime, someone sparked my interest in a principal that diverts a permanent magnets flux and i forsee using either a rotating permanent magnet or an electromagnet, to create an output in a separate core piece.
This would negate any direct relationship between the output and input, meaning it should not reflect back to input.
What the efficiency might be is another question until experiments are made.
Similar to Kawai motor, only this would be a transformer.
I already did some hand tests and with just bringing magnet close and pulling away, i can get 6 milliamps.
What is interesting is, is that the diverting flux can be much less than the main operating flux that permeates both core pieces.
Which reminds me of how a transistor works.
If it starts to look a little more promising, I'll start a thread on it.
peace love light

Edit: here is a drawing of the idea.

[gyulasun]

Hi Tyson,

Please have a look at this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D_qdbLmxqk

Do not let other 'principals' divert your attention from the present project...     

Making a circular ramp where a rotor is able to cover around 270-290 degree (out of the full 360 degree) by permanent magnet interactions only is practical, right?  One more example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjvAbD1aA0w

Then comes the dreadful sticky point of course but the possibilities are there.

Gyula