Stepped Gradient Magnet Motor

[lumen]

Hi Lumen,

I understand what you say and mostly agree with it, including the loss of energy gain on exit.  However, it is the construction of the setup I think which may define whether acceleration takes place near the end magnet only or much earlier at the smaller steps too.

Please watch this video, especially from minutes 5:27 to 7:04  (reduce audio volume to a minimum due to the embarassing background music):  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxy8phi6I74  The whole video is interesting but I especially mean the time duration I have indicated above, where a good 75% arc out of  the full 360° circle is travelled by the steel ball and gets stuck in the sticky point.   

Now suppose the steel ball is fixed firmly to a holder as a stator and the rotor will be the two discs with their magnets embedded between them as shown, and the air gap between the ball and the discs would be say 1-2 mm.  Then the discs as a single rotor will also rotate the same 75% arc and will get stuck in the same way as the ball did at the sticky point (where the last magnet and the ball are the closest to each other). 

Now the question arises whether the compensation of the strong attractive sticky point as I referred to in my Reply #2 above could be done with an equal amount of repel force exercised onto the shaft of the rotor discs? 

What do you and all others think?

Gyula

Hi Gyula,  Yes there will be acceleration along the gradient but what I meant to say is that the speed achieved through the gradient when it reaches the end magnet is only the same as it would have been if only the end magnet existed.
The gradient seems to add no additional gain in speed. In the ramps that I built it always seems to be the case.

[gyulasun]

Hi Lumen,

Thanks for the further explanation, I understand now how you meant.  I find it strange a bit though but I respect experiments. 

My impression was (after watching the video I referred to)  that the ball should have higher speed when arriving into a position with acceleration which  is (for example) only 3 cm away from the sticky point  versus the case when the ball is started moving only from a stationary position which is 3 cm distance towards the sticky point. 

Gyula

[SkyWatcher123]

Hi folks, mounted 4 stepped neo stacks with rotor mounted and the results with the arrangement as stated is not so good.
The first 2 magnet stacks have a couple of stall spots between magnets, then after that, it repels along fine.
I thought it seemed to work well with hand tests, though with the rotor mounted it reveals the true functioning.
So, i will remove the magnets and place the strongest neo stack first and then step down with progressively weaker magnet stacks, still using repulsion mode.
Because the way it is now, it is causing the stall spots.
peace love light

[lumen]

Hi Skywatcher and Gyula
First I want to say that the Gradient concept is simply the concept behind all magnet motors and that they never seem to operate as desired.
What I have discovered is a new concept on how one could build a magnet only motor that has never been posted (as far as I know)
Once you have the principal of this new concept you will understand that magnet motors may in fact be real in spite of the fact that magnetic fields are 100% conservative in nature.

I don't really want to bring up this new concept in Skywatchers project thread and possibly derail his project but knowing this concept opens up a new area of magnetic interaction.

Because Skywatcher wants to experiment and Gyula has the brains, this might be a benefit if we all knew the concept, and knowing the concept is the key to this new area of testing.

[SkyWatcher123]

Hi lumen, feel free to share whatever you like, if that is your wish.
I'm enjoying building and testing things, without fun, what's the point to anything really, so share away.
Also, brains are good, though without imagination and vision, brains can be like a boat without a rudder or a horse with blinders on.
That's my fortune cookie wisdom for today, hehe.
peace love light