Gyroscopic Inertia Generator

[MileHigh]

Scorch:

Here is a thought experiment:   You have two coils that are facing each other like in your pulse motor setup with the same current flowing through them because they are connected in series.  They start at 10 cm apart and they approach each other.  The closer they get to each other the more the magnetic fields they generate will cancel each other out.  If you measure the inductance of the pair with an inductance meter it will decrease the closer they get together.  At 5 cm apart there is moderate cancellation and the inductance is moderately reduced.  At 1 cm apart there is significant cancellation and a significant reduction in inductance.  If they could occupy the same volume (zero distance between each other) the magnetic field becomes zero, the inductance becomes zero, and you are just left with the resistance of the wire.

So in the pulse motor setup they might be 1.5 cm apart.  You end up with a weak torque imparted on the center rotor when the two coils pulse.  Plus you are driving two coils instead of a single coil, so that means you are consuming twice the power.  So when you compare two coils to one coil, you are consuming twice the power and only getting roughly 60% of the push on the center rotor (as per my previous example).

So while you are running your main tests you can disconnect a wire to make a spot check to see if this is indeed the case.  If the pulse motor is just free running, it looks like disconnecting the wire will reduce your power consumption by half and then the motor will start to speed up.  It's a worthwhile test.

be a well balanced circuit and system operating in a resonate condition.

Can you please explain what you mean by a resonant condition?

I am of the firm belief that resonance, in harmony with the source field, is the key to OU.

Can you please explain what you mean by the source field?

For the Gramme Machine, it's not exactly the same as the setup for your motor because you don't have a commutator but they are quite similar.

Here is a claim you made in your previous posting:

Motor effect: A conventional generator can usually be used as a motor simply by sending power back into it.
But if one attempts to send power to the coils of a toroidal generator; there is no applied force back to the rotor!

From your Wikipedia link:

During a demonstration at an industrial exposition in Vienna in 1873, Gramme accidentally discovered that this device, if supplied with a constant-voltage power supply, will act as an electric motor. Gramme's partner, Hippolyte Fontaine, carelessly connected the terminals of a Gramme machine to another dynamo which was producing electricity, and its shaft began to spin.[3] The Gramme machine was the first powerful electric motor useful as more than a toy or laboratory curiosity. Today the design forms the basis of nearly all DC electric motors.

So your statement "Such as the reintroduction of a toroidal generator which does appear to have some very unique benefits such as operating in direct violation of Lenz's Law (no back torque) and no apparent motor effect." is false.  There are no unique benefits and no violations in Lenz's law.  If you can do the spin-down test like I suggested you will prove that there is Lenz drag.  If you are outputting power into a load resistor with any kind of generator setup that you can possibly imagine, there will always be Lenz drag.  The big mistake on your part is to believe in a "magic" generator configuration.

I am not making any specific comments on a test that Stefan did 15 years ago that I haven't read up on.  You cannot put words in my my mouth like that and play straw man.  In a generic sense it's likely that there were measurement errors.  That happens all the time.  For example, take the example of JL Naudin.  He has had to retract his claims of over unity many times over.  Additionally, can you cite any replications of Stefan's data?  We are 20 years later, has anything come of it?  Look at the example above where you made claims that were refuted in the same Wikipedia link that you provided yourself.  These kinds of things happen all the time.  There is simply no "magic" motor or generator configuration that doesn't obey the basic laws of physics.  The burden would be on your shoulders to prove that if you believed it.

MileHigh

[Scorch]

Scorch:
... Can you please explain what you mean by a resonant condition?

Hey MileHigh. 

This would be the basic definition in physics:
"the reinforcement or prolongation of sound by reflection from a surface or by the synchronous vibration of a neighboring object."
And, yes, I do expect a motor/generator operating in an electro-magic resonance to produce a distinct, two tone, synchronous sound.
This is why the Muller motor, the QEG, and G1 all produce a unique, sometimes very loud, synchronous sound.

Think of a humming transformer that changes tones and octaves as the frequency changes.
All materials, including living biological systems, right down to its smallest particle, all have a natural resonance depending on shape such as a tuning fork or violin string.

Same goes for the humming transformer. Somewhere within a wide range of frequency is the resonant frequency of that particular transformer including it's coils, core, and hardware.
At this resonant frequency; the transformer may produce a very unique, synchronous, resonant tone that only appears at that specific frequency and may reappear at different octaves of that same frequency.
With enough power there may even be a noticeable increase of force from the resonance actually resulting in visible movement such as the device scooting across the bench much like toy football players scoot across the vibrating table.

And, if there is any sand on the same table, some very interesting patterns may emerge in the shapes of "sacred geometry" providing a visual representation of these resonant frequencies.
And here is an interesting video demonstrating the geometry that may appear as the table resonates at these different frequencies.-
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMIvAsZvBiw
Alternate-
www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zw0uWCNsyw

Do the sounds, from either one of these resonant pattern experiments, sound anything like the introductory sound at 1:07 of this Quanta Magnetics video?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8VdsWn-Q9Y&

And, BTW, every unit that APPEARS to be identical may have different resonant frequencies and something as simple as how tight the windings are wound, and bolts are torqued, do effect this.
SO; to actually TUNE such a system, including changing clearances and adjusting bolts, does require a good ear for such things, some finesse, and LOTS of patience.... 

Says I; the one who has been tuning engines, most of his life, based merely on how they sound... 

Can you please explain what you mean by the source field?

Not easily, or in short period of time, no.
Please forgive me as I am not qualified to fully explain these things that I first began investigating nearly twenty years ago beginning with coral castle and the revealing images and interesting experiments found at the www.coralcastlecode.com web site as well as other interesting stuff here- www.leedskalnin.com

I only have one reference book and it took me about 20 hours just to listen to this one audio book in its entirety without much note taking or stopping to check references.
http://rodscontracts.com/audio/science/audiobooks/SourceFieldInvestigations/
Which reads like a laundry list of verifiable scientific experiments, investigations, tests and laboratory results.
And, no, I have not attempted to verify ALL of them and I'm not going to because I have been witness to enough to believe this is honest, true, research and knowledge. 

So this is the extent of my knowledge of these physics, including the quantum physics, beyond what I might see in my mind's eye.
And other sources such as www.coralcastlecode.com and vortex math and physics also plays a part in these resonant systems and geometries.
http://vortexspace.org
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternatives_to_general_relativity

Seek the positive truth and ye shall find it.
Seek the negative and ye shall that as well. 
50/50, Yin & Yang, Positive and Negative...
Energy sucked in, and very cold, at North & South.
Energy out, and very hot, in the middle...

And I am currently, still, attempting to absorb the synchronicity key materials.
I usually just play these files while behind the wheel running service calls.
Hear: http://rodscontracts.com/audio/science/audiobooks/SynchronicityKey/

I gain a lot of my 'book' knowledge in this manner.
Simply by listening to lectures over and over including law studies, health, new energy systems and etcetera.
And, once in awhile, the subject is interesting enough for me to actually take a note, or two, then confirm the knowledge (at a later date) through personal discernment and first hand experience. 

Kindest regards;

}:>

[MileHigh]

Scorch:

What are you talking about, mechanical resonance or electrical resonance?

If you are talking about mechanical resonance, how could that possibly apply to your pulse motor, which is an electrical device?

If you are talking about electrical resonance, then please be specific.  Please describe the resonance mechanism.  There are always two components and two variables in any resonance system, be it mechanical or electrical.  So if you are implying electrical resonance, what components and what variables?

All materials, including living biological systems, right down to its smallest particle, all have a natural resonance depending on shape such as a tuning fork or violin string.

It all depends on what type of resonance you are talking about, what the components are, and what the variables are.  Everything does not necessarily have a "natural resonance," that's a meaningless statement that you will hear at some kind of New Age conference.  Do you understand where I am coming from?  When you state something, it has to really mean something.  Otherwise we all end up drowning in BS.  You have to be able to back up your statements with real facts and real logic.  Just pointing to something is not an 'escape clause' either.

I have seen the clips with the patterns in the sand on the vibrating surfaces.  It's not the "shapes of 'sacred geometry,'" you are falling hook, line, and sinker for some New Age gibberish.  Those patterns at the resonant nodes on the vibrating surfaces are showing you Nature in action, where Nature is following the symmetry of the mathematics that describe Nature and vice-versa.  No pun intended, but you need to "get your head out of the sand."  Those patterns are real-world demonstrations of solutions to differential equations.  It's that kind of mathematical modeling that allows us to design bridges where we can be sure that the resonances in the bridge structure are dealt with properly so that the bridge doesn't shake itself to pieces.  That of course actually happened and we learned from our mistakes and oversights.  But there is nothing "sacred" about this.  It just makes me uncomfortable to try to attach some kind of spirituality to something concrete and real.

Resonance is one of the most misunderstood and abused terms in the whole realm of free energy and "New Age consciousness."  It's used to sucker people and create the pretense that something special is going on.  My advice to you is to only use that term when you can back it up with reasoning and facts.  When Quanta Magnetics tries to link their vanilla pulse motor with the Schumann resonance, it an abuse of the term.  I have already challenged you on that one and you can't back it up.

And, BTW, every unit that APPEARS to be identical may have different resonant frequencies and something as simple as how tight the windings are wound, and bolts are torqued, do effect this.
SO; to actually TUNE such a system, including changing clearances and adjusting bolts, does require a good ear for such things, some finesse, and LOTS of patience....

That all sounds fine and dandy but take note of what I said above.   I challenge you:  whenever you mention "resonance" explain the mechanism, the two components, and the two variables.  Otherwise, there is nothing there.

The classic example is when you blow air across the top of a beer bottle and you hear a tone.  Without looking anything up, can you explain the resonance in this situation?   I seriously doubt that you can, and that means you have to learn what you are talking about before you discuss something.  It's a very important principle that you want to live by.

Perhaps sometime later I will tackle the issue of the "source field" but I don't have the time today to look at your links.

MileHigh

[MileHigh]

Scorch:

Let me just "temper" my comments to give you some context.  I am not involved and don't really care about your pulse motor.  Likewise, I have no involvement in what you think and believe and in the final analysis I don't really care, those are your affairs and live and let live.  Nor do I really care about your YouTube clips.

This is just an exercise on my part to make you really think about what you are saying.  And by extension the readers can contemplate these issues also.  It's all fine and dandy to read all of this stuff and gobble it all up and believe that it's all true.  But as a society we can't afford to lose sight of what really counts.  Sometimes these cockamamie ideas are harmless, other times they really hurt people.  They hurt people financially, they put people in danger, sometimes people die for totally stupid reasons that should never have happened.

So you should really think about these issues.  Your "belief system" is a house of cards that will collapse when real-world results are demanded.  There is a Rodin coil promoter guy and he managed to slip through the cracks and managed to get on a "Ted Talks."  He said that the Rodin mathematics and the Rodin coil where going to "change the world and solve ALL of our problems."  He was supposed to back up some of his statements with data and he promised two weeks after his Ted Talk that he would email the organizers.  He never did.  Probably about two-hundred thousand dollars total have been "invested" in the "QEG phenomenon" over the past nine months.  No QEG will ever produce so much as a pico-Joule of excess energy.  A "mass movement of nothingness."  Those are the problems and pitfalls that we have to work together to prevent from happening.  Those are things for you to think about.  Is your Quanta Magnetics pulse motor something amazing or is it just a glorified grade 8 science fair project?  Is Mike Kantz part of the "new energy paradigm" or is he just a Joe Blow that knows very little out to make a buck?  It's important for all of us to know the right answers to those questions.

MileHigh

[Scorch]

Scorch:

Mr. Quanta Magnetics probably said to himself, "I will make an improved design where I put drive coils on both sides of the main center rotor.  With two drive coils on opposite sides of the rotor magnets I should get double the torque to make the rotor spin faster and more efficiently."

The fact is that he is wrong.  And I told you already many times that he has no true understanding of what he is doing.  I don't like repeating this all the time but in this case it merits repeating.  He is supposedly charging for his "intellectual property."

Let's just use abstract units to illustrate the problem.  Let's say that a single coil gives you 100 units of "torque energy" when you pulse the coil.  So, Mike Kantz probably said to himself, "I will put a coil on each side and get an even stronger field to push on the rotor magnet.  I will take advantage of both sides of the rotor magnet instead of only using one side of the rotor magnet.  With one coil I will get 100 units of torque energy per pulse, so with two coils I should get 200 units of torque energy per pulse."

MileHigh

Are you of the position we should speak for others?

Scorch:

I am not making any specific comments on a test that Stefan did 15 years ago that I haven't read up on.  You cannot put words in my my mouth like that and play straw man.

MileHigh

Are you of the position we should not speak for others?!? 

Did I speak for another or did I merely ask a question?

Please forgive my confusion caused by your words versus your other words...

And please forgive my choice to concentrate on replicating this experiment versus expending a lot of my time and energy for these multi-page dualism word games or attempting to educate the ignorant. 
Such as the belief that splitting a balanced system in half may be an improvement.  Or a belief that a resonating electric system emitting obvious sound, such as a vibrating coil, transformer, or motor actually producing said sound, is, somehow, separate or completely independent from it's physical-mechanical characteristics required to actually produce a sound including an electro-mechanical resonant sound.

Nor am I here to resolve multiple challenges issued from the ignorant regarding obvious unknowns such as a system we haven't built yet...
If one takes a firm position regarding the unknown; what shall we call this? Is it mere ignorance or is it something else? 

Kindest regards;

}:>

PS: The term "ignorant" is not derogatory. It simply means "not educated" in a field of study such as merely reading a book and testing its references.
Or: "not educated" in the existence of these verifiable scientific investigations into the source field that effects all these systems including these solar systems, planetary systems, biological systems, mental systems, fluid systems, gas systems, electrical systems and, of course, all these energy systems all the way down to the to the quantum level and torsion field physics.