Gyroscopic Inertia Generator

[Scorch]

Hello everybody. 

I intend to build a Quanta Magnetics "G1" Gyroscopic Inertia Generator kit and I believe this may be a good place to share my experience with this experiment on the "mechanic" board.
See product page here-  www.quantamagneticstore.com/g1.html

I initially tried to start this topic a few days ago but I unintentionally created it under the wrong board then no response from the admin to move it then lots of negativity from users who do not appear to even be interested in this experiment. So not sure why they are there or why I should even respond to such negativity because I cannot help those who refuse to help themselves or they appear merely to create controversy and distraction against these creative processes. Don't know if this is their intent and I do prefer to merely forgive and forget.   

So I am bringing this here under a more appropriate board and subject title for a fresh start.
(Second time is a charm?)

I am here merely to conduct this experiment with an open mind to build a device I have never seen before. And I have only witnessed a few very intriguing video *demonstrations. Although I do maintain continuing communications with the inventor who has always provided excellent support and personal service. Including some insight into the personal history and experiences of this inventor featured here-
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:_Mike_Kantz%27_Quanta_Magnetics
*See-
www.youtube.com/user/PMMG4HYBRID/videos

My regular trade is: in-home Major Appliance Services.
My formal training is: Airframe and Powerplant Technician.
My contractor's web site is: www.rodsconctracts.com
My prefered social forum is: www.furaffinity.net/user/scorch/
Where you may discover many journals and images about my realities, my alter-egos, and other projects including these alternative energy experiments.

And one of my hobbies is exploring these alternative energy systems which, like some other hobbies such as model railroad or RC aircraft, can be very expensive.

In the past; most of the stuff I have built has been fabricated from raw materials and whatever information I could salvage from a grainy video or 'plans' found on the web. This, in itself, can get pretty expensive and I have actually sold an entire lot of old experiments on Ebay merely to make room in my limited work space and bring in some money to buy new materials or kits. Or very expensive in terms of time such as fabrication of my own coils including Litz windings.

In these particular fields of study there does not appear to be many decent experimental kits so I do have a high appreciation for Quanta Magnetics actually offering some of these types of kits. Which appear to be reasonably priced for a high quality design which is still being developed and supported including international sales.

In my reality; brand name printer ink typically sells for well over $5,000.00 per gallon and some of the people I know often spend this much, or more, on things with far less experimental value such as video games and/or furry costume suits. So, in the reality of this context, I consider the Quanta Magnetic offers to be very fair and reasonable. 

I already have experience building some other technologies such as the Bedini SSG and a few other things such as a modified Muller motor. And some experience building a Quanta Magnetics Q2 which I recently converted to a Q3 and have performed a couple preliminary tests with results that look really interesting including a toroidal generator section that suffers very little Lenz effect under a dead short load. As well as the affect of a 'charge accelerator' that rapidly charges the battery by way of a pulsed generator.

The disk generator section, itself, is being pulsed in a similar manner as the pulse motor but with a delay offset from the pulse motor so the generator pulse takes place after the pulse motor 'fires'.

This means that motor is actually "off'" while generator is "on" which is a very interesting setup in itself in that the inertial-kinetic energy is what drives the disk generator. And I did produce a preliminary video attempting to demonstrate some of these effects and all three charging outputs here- www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCVljbXay1c

Of course the challenge with producing a video is: Watching batteries charge is VERY boring and difficult to demonstrate in a few minutes of video.... So this first video was produced with batteries that were almost charged in an attempt to show charging activities within the limited time of the video. And the fact is I have actually been waiting for Quanta Magnetics to come out with a newer system.

Even back when I was working on the Q2 and providing a lot those details in the Muller forum; the inventor was already working on many other devices including the Q3, T1X and T2.

So, after I received the toroidal generator conversion kit to build the Q3, I only built the toroidal section while leaving the conventional alternator of the Q2 intact. I did a couple tests then set this project aside as I then considered converting it to a T1, then a T2, then possibly using it to built a G1 so it sat on the shelf for an extended period of time while I did other things and waited to see what else the inventor might come up with...

Upon release of the G1; I then decided to go ahead and just complete the conversion of the Q2 over to a Q3 which I just completed a couple weeks ago after all this time.  At which point I had already ordered the G1 and now the Q3 is merely on the back burner, AGAIN, while I concentrate on this new G1 experimental kit.

I have no concern for the negative.
Experience has taught me that when one seeks the negative; one will ALWAYS be able to find it. 
Seek and ye shall find... so what's the point and where does it get me?
I prefer to merely seek the solutions and not make these conscious decisions to have a problem with some thing.

If you consciously decide to have a problem with some particular thing here then; how may I help you solve your chosen problem?
What is the remedy, you so desire, to solve the problem you chose to have?

I am a problem solver, not problem seeker, here merely to build and share this experience and knowledge with others here. And any positive input is certainly appreciated including constructive criticism. I seek solutions. Not problems. 

And here is the first image of this project. (see below)

This is the complete kit including the magnets, lots of extra wire, and three ultra capacitor banks rated at 350 Farad.
At this point the design has already been upgraded because in the inventor's previous videos; he is running on only two capacitor banks with a 'start up' lithium battery pack which has now been replaced with a third capacitor bank. And one of the assembly steps is to actually disassemble these capacitor banks to remove the discharge resistors which would be detrimental when attempting to achieve the highest possible efficiency and capacitor charging.

There does appear to be some unique characteristics of this experiment I have not seen before or not combined together in this manner.

Including these things I think I know about this G1 system-
-Three magnetic motor rotors to provide for magnetic flux on both sides of each coil pair which could be described as a "Tri Pole" motor. A feature I have never seen before in this type of system.
-A substantial inertial mass, stainless steel, flywheel storing kinetic energy. Another feature I have not seen in this type of pulse motor system.
-High efficiency, three phase, alternator. Another feature I have never tried installing on any of my past pulse motor projects.
-Flywheel and alternator is "open synchronized". There is no direct connection between the motor and the flywheel-alternator section. Which, yet again, I have never seen this before in any such system which may produce the effect of: Sudden heavy surge, or "spike", loads have very little effect on driver motor rpm.
-Alternator small enough to be mounted INSIDE the diameter of the flywheel resulting in mechanical leverage advantages for inertial-kinetic energy to alternator. And, I guess I'll say it again, haven't seen this in any pulse motor design before.
-Resonate system resonating in harmony with the Schumann resonance of our mother earth. Don't think I have any experience with this either although it may be possible to tune the Q3 to a resonate frequency.

So, yes, I'm really looking forward to analyzing this device and these new ideas I have never seen used together in this manner.

And if you also have any hands on experience with ANY Quanta Magnetics products; you are certainly welcome to share your experiences here. 

And, also, be advised this is merely a hobby for me at this point and I do this at my own leisure.
While I do intend to provide regular progress reports for this experiment; it may be weeks or even months between reports just depending my own priorities, moods, and attitudes. As well as other attitudes which may discourage me from sharing my stuff here such as spam and negativity.

Sometimes I am very driven and motivated to build stuff.
Most other times; I am very lazy and ignoring stuff I should be building... 

That is all for now.

Kindest regards;

Scorch.

}:>

[minnie]

Scorch,
         good luck! You'd get a fair bit of juice out of  5,000 dollars worth of solar panels.
                 John.

[Scorch]

Yes, indeed, that is until the clouds move in or the sun sets. . .
And, of course, there is no way I will ever fit $5,000.00 worth of solar panels on an RV, electric car, or electric motorcycle.   

Also; solar panels do not have any cool gyroscopic moving parts, pretty blinking lights, or generate any interesting harmonic sounds to keep me entertained and attract people to my table at parties and conventions. 

Kindest regards;

}:>

Scorch,
         good luck! You'd get a fair bit of juice out of  5,000 dollars worth of solar panels.
                 John.

[MileHigh]

Scorch:

And some experience building a Quanta Magnetics Q2 which I recently converted to a Q3 and have performed a couple preliminary tests with results that look really interesting including a toroidal generator section that suffers very little Lenz effect under a dead short load.

It's supposed to suffer very little Lenz drag under a "dead short load" because a dead short is a no-load condition.  The same thing will apply to any other similar type of setup.  You do burn off power in the drive coils themselves but zero power is burnt off in the load, because zero ohms is not a load.

You have a lot to learn, good luck.

MileHigh

[Scorch]

Hey MileHigh. 

Interesting.
Although I have observed a similar effect with an actual load doing actual work similar to this demonstration in which the load is not a dead short but is a conventional DC motor driving a pump-

http://youtu.be/Zu4pzvkSkzo?t=9m40s

I am in the position of personal, hands on, experiential knowledge that I was able to connect a 300ma. load (light bulb) to the output of the toroidal generator and the over-all RPM of my system changed very little, if any, and system current draw changed very little and certainly not anywhere near the 300ma load that I connected...

You may find this effect to be very interesting and can probably be accomplished DIY with a smaller toroidal generator in your own lab. 
Although, if I recall correctly, the 6.5"  toroid on the Q3 is actually very reasonably priced and available from this company-
www.micrometals.com/
Look for a toroid part #T650-52 which was wound with 125' of 16AWG magnet wire on each side for the Q3.
The magnetic rotor is 4 pcs of 3"L x 1"W x .5" Thick N42 magnets and additional, smaller, magnets can be added on top of those for better performance.

And, of course, when driven by a large, 12", disk rotor of a pulse motor, this provides for pretty substantial mechanical advantage (leverage) between the 12" diameter of the disk and the much smaller 2.25" diameter of the toroidal rotor.
This mechanical advantage appears to be a pretty major advantage so that pulsed motor current draw only changes a few milliamperes even though generator load increased by over 300ma.
The tiny generator just isn't much of a load for the big motor which could obviously drive a much larger toroidal generator. Or a pair of toroidal generators like the Quanta Magnetics T2 device uses.

Kindest regards;

}:>

Scorch:

It's supposed to suffer very little Lenz drag under a "dead short load" because a dead short is a no-load condition.  The same thing will apply to any other similar type of setup.  You do burn off power in the drive coils themselves but zero power is burnt off in the load, because zero ohms is not a load.

You have a lot to learn, good luck.

MileHigh