Gyroscopic Inertia Generator

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Quote from Milehigher:

"He does not teach that an inductor is a current-based passive energy storage device which is functionally equivalent to a mechanical flywheel."


The inference is that John Bedini dosen't know that inductors store power.

[MileHigh]

It's okay Scorch, you are just playing games but it doesn't really matter.  The challenges and examples I have given you are to try to make you think.  Some of the the statements were strong to emphasize the differences between the stuff you will get from Bedini devotees and people from the real world of electronics.  In the Bedini world, making a serious measurement of the output power of the motor into the charging battery is not even discussed.  That's an example of what is wrong with the Bedini crowd.

I think that you came here with an expectation that everyone would be in agreement with you.  So it may have come as a surprise to you to read some differing opinions.  And also you have gained a lot of insight and you know that if one has the education and skills and experience you can really do some serious analysis if you want to.  Or you can work on educating yourself and pushing yourself to do a more serious analysis.

Your Bedini world has had a well-deserved cage rattling.  If you are looking for disinformation agents, don't look at me, look towards Bedini and his cohorts.  For example, at a Bedini conference a few years ago they projected an animation of a Bedini 10-coiler swapping back and forth between two large battery banks in the basement of a house.  The "extra energy" was supposed to power inverters to power your house.  That animation was a complete and total lie, so think about that.

[Madeo]

During my experiments with Bedini motors and other pulse type projects,  I measured that BEMF spikes are only 50% of the initial energy that was used to energize the coil and that's with a fast diode at 75ns recovery time and a good mechanical switch. Bipolar transistors aren't the ideal switch like a mechanical switching system so more losses occur..   You can measure it yourself easily. Energize the coil and dump it to a capacitor.    Use the formulas for the Inductor (1/2 LI2) and capacitor (1/2 CV2)  to compare them.

If you study the circuitry in the whole system, there's nothing but losses all the way to the secondary battery.  The bedini systems does not have a wire grounded to the earth nor does it have an antenna to collect environmental energy so , basically,  it is a closed system. How can we expect this system to achieve >1.0 COP      

You can't and you won't.


I suspect that even with the rotating mass (rotor), the energy in it won't be enough to break the 1.0 COP barrier. This is why nobody in the whole world is able to replicate one that achieves OU with this device. At this point and time, it remains as a great way to revive dead batteries and maybe restore them to 100-110% of its original capacity.  If this is what he meant by OU simply because it can make the battery perform better than we first bought them, then I think this should have been emphasized in the first place.

However, there is one setup that I believe has the potential to break that barrier, but I'm too burnt out with this type of technology to try it.  I'm shelving this system for the time being and try something different.


Madeo

[Scorch]

Hey Milehigh. 

I see no evidence or record I have taken any firm position or made any specific claim which suffers the burden of proof or an expectation for an agreement and I believe no such evidence or record exists.
Have you assumed that a humble question is the same a firm statement, position, claim or expectation?

Please be advised I have little or no expectations because this is an educational EXPERIMENT.
And all I have to offer are a few progress reports and lots of discovery QUESTIONS to reveal truth.

Questions such as "Is there any verifiable *proof of his claim?"
*Proof such as: Replicate the experiment to see if it's successful within the perimeters of the claim.
Or, if one makes the claim "it doesn't work", then one still suffers the burden of proof of his claim such as: conducting the actual experiment multiple times, under a multitude of various conditions, in order to PROVE it doesn't work under ANY condition and must include certified documentation and supporting evidence. Otherwise it's merely a frivolous (unproven) claim.

I do not know what the results of this experiment may be and I conduct this experiment without any specific expectation beyond the expectation that it should actually run when I turn it on.
The rest is absolutely UNKNOWN and I would be an ignorant fool to make any specific claims about that which I have no knowledge such as a device I have not built, operated, or tested yet. . .

Kindest regards;

}:>

I think that you came here with an expectation that everyone would be in agreement with you. 

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I made precise measurements of Bedini's SSG charging power by lighting a 120 volt "Lights of America" LED off the charging circuit in place of the charging battery. I then accurately measured the bulb's luminosity with a high quality lux meter and compared the watts of light to the watts of input. The bulb was lit to about 70% of it's brightness and I estimated the recovery at about 30%. This was way below what Arron's talking about, but coupled with a "Lenz Propulsion" spiral output coil looped back to source, the input stabilized and source power even climbed slightly. The collected BEMF pushed the circuit overunity by approximately the amount I harvested through Bedini's charge circuit. No small feat, and all proper credit due to John. Everyone's seen my videos demonstrating this. COP 1.3!