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Overunity Machines Forum



Gyroscopic Inertia Generator

Started by Scorch, October 18, 2014, 04:23:56 PM

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Scorch

11/20/14

What if? . . .

What if I were to state that I do not intend to perform any extensive testing beyond this humble attempt to confirm that internal system voltage may rise while system is operating and possibly powering an LED light while maintaining or increasing voltage?

What if I were to state this is all I care about?

If there is ANY evidence this might be accomplished then; all you experts are certainly welcome to perform all this proposed testing to determine specific performance.
And, of course and if they need a machine to test, I would certainly be willing to rent my asset to them for the purposes of testing.  8)

While I, on the other hand, will then pursue bigger and better things while all you eggheads can do ALL the work to solve whatever problem(s) you might decide to have with the revealed evidence....  ;)

See how that might work?
If I were to make an actual claim of a specific performance then; everybody will certainly demand  that I perform all this work and prove it beyond my own believe system.
This would be a huge burden of proof thrust upon me by way of my own claim...
And if system actually is operating within the variable source energy fields and charging batteries that are subject to various conditions including temperature and even plate forming that occurs over time, and system performance changes merely depending on location, orientation, time of day, solar system cycles and other factors; how does one possibly quantify this and provide any specific performance results?

So why would I, Mike, John, Aaron, Peter (or anybody else for that matter) make any such claims subject to such demands and burdens?!?

It would appear that if anybody makes a specific claim then others, such as yourself, will certainly demand proof.
In this hypothetical, "what if?", scenerio; the proof would already be there for those with open minds to learn, ears to hear and eyes to see.
BUT they have to actually see, touch, and hear it in order to obtain the true knowledge they seek!

Otherwise; they lazily claim "you faked the video"...  :P
So. . . why would we want to subject ourselves to such attacks?!?

Would it be acceptable if I merely attempt to replicate what was presented in the video to the satisfaction of myself while also sharing my experience here for all to see?
Would it be acceptable if I merely allow others to find the proof they seek to support their own belief systems?

Want true, first hand, experiential knowledge and undeniable proof?
Then build and/or and test it yourself silly!   ;D

}:>


Quote from: MileHigh on November 20, 2014, 08:37:26 AM
Scorch:
So you can easily derive and make a decent estimate of the mechanical energy per pulse.  So then a fun challenge would be to actually measure the mechanical energy per pulse with the spin-down test and then compare it with the calculated mechanical energy per pulse.  If the two values are say within +/-5% then it would give you confirmation that your measurements are good.

MileHigh

MileHigh

Scorch:

That was a generic example for any pulse motor, nobody is asking you to do the same tests.  Those were just some examples for illustrative purposes.  If I recall, in the clip Mike Kantz states that something interesting might be going on.  I think he switches out the power supply and runs the motor off of the big capacitor bank (the "internal system voltage") and at the same time the generator section is pumping power back into the main capacitor bank.  He is vague about everything, which is normal, and the main capacitor bank "might" be increasing in voltage when this is happening.

Woo!  Is there an anomaly going on there?

For starters, how vague can staring at the voltage readout on a digital multimeter for 10 minutes really be?  You would think that Mike Kantz would be capable of doing that and making a definitive statement, wouldn't you?

So it would be most welcome if you made goods tests here to clear up the cloud of vagueness associated with that Quanta Magnetics clip.  And no, you won't become an "egghead" if you do some good experimenting.

If you see the increasing voltage, the next things you should be asking yourself are why and how.  It looks to me like, for some reason, when he switches over to the cap voltage, there is some excess rotational energy in the rotor that drives the generator to charge the capacitor bank.  This might last a minute and then it will start going down.  For example, if the battery voltage was 12.6 volts and the cap bank voltage is 12.0 volts, when the switchover is done to the cap bank, the rotor will indeed recharge the cap bank for a short while like I described.  Obviously, the normal running RPM at 12.0 volts is going to be slower than the same thing at 12.6 volts.  The excess RPM in the rotor is "burned off" by charging the cap bank.  It's all 100% normal.

MileHigh

Scorch

11/20/14

Managed to complete some more assembly work today.
I used a cheapo arbor press to press the magnets into the intermediate rotors which do appear to be polycarbonate and are same diameter as primary motor rotor at 11".
Magnets are 18 pcs of 1.75" Dia x 0.25" Thick N42
www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=DXC4

The manufacturer calls these "secondary" rotors but I call them "intermediate" rotors because there is-
1. Primary motor rotor.
2. Intermediate rotors. (qty. 3)
3. Final alternator rotors. (qty. 2)

I also stacked all the moving parts onto a scale including all rotors, magnets, shaft, hubs, timing disk, flywheels and hardware in order to get an idea of what the total rotational mass might be.

The total kinetic mass in this device is right around 27 pounds.

And, yes, all these rotors do tend to 'couple' with each other.
Had to use lots of styrofoam spacers just to make sure they don't all lock together on the scale.

I also placed the motor and generator sections side by side for a size comparison.
It does appear the motor section is substantially larger than the alternator it will drive along with the flywheel.

That is all for now.

Kindest regards;

}:>

Scorch

11/20/14

No. I would not.

Why?
Because if he makes a definitive statement; somebody would then call him a liar and demand proof of his claim.  ::)

And, more than likely, he has much higher priorities to be concerned with than spending a lot of his time attempting to convince multitudes of internet skeptics, 'debunkers', or disinformation agents who have not actually studied the experiment in person in real time as I am currently doing...  8)

Kindest regards;

}:>


Quote from: MileHigh on November 20, 2014, 03:00:08 PM
Scorch:

You would think that Mike Kantz would be capable of doing that and making a definitive statement, wouldn't you?

MileHigh

synchro1


Anyone who has watched those Mike Kantz videos should be able to identify the inventor in this 2008 video from the voice: Check out the capacitor and the alternator at the end of the rotor!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgkoxbS5rHk&feature=channel


It's easy to see how he's coupled "Lenz Propulsion" with the diversion of back spike to coil pulse, satisfying my two requirements for overunity! Mike's self charger is the real McCoy folks, don't anyone doubt it!