Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter

[skywatcher]

@plengo:

Thanks for sharing your information about making your cells.   

At least you are aware of the fact that most of the effects (maybe all ?  we don't know for sure) are galvanic.
This makes experimenting so tough because you need to do many experiments.
Experimenting (the 'Monkey'-component  ) is important because new effects can only be found by experimenting.
But we also have to be realistic. The chance to find anything new is very low because there have been millions of experiments in the last 150 years.
Every battery manufacturer tries to improve his batteries, and they have professional equipment etc.

The ultimate test for 'galvanic or not' would be to calculate the maximum energy output for the case that any metal in the cell has been corroded away, and if your cell has delivered more than this amount of energy, it has to be something else. But if you get only microwatts this experiment would run for decades even with small cells.

Sometimes i hear 'the cell is completely dry so it can not be galvanic' which is complete nonsense because most of the salts which are used contain plenty of water, which can be seen if the salt is heated up and then the water comes out. If you boil out the water completely the cell will not show any significant voltage, but maybe it will slowly build up some voltage as it's absorbing some humidity from the air.

Yesterday i did a small experiment. I used a piece of PCB material (with 35 um copper) about 5x7 cm and a piece of aluminium of the same size. Between them i put some Rochelle salt, and a piece of glass fibre fabric (as spacer). Then i put it into the oven, with a weight on top to press it together, and i baked it at 230°C for 1 hr. After cooling down i measured the voltage and there was nothing. 0.00 mV. Also some time later, there was only 0.04 mV. Then i connected a 10 k resistor to both plates and waited for some time. I measured again and i saw some small increase of voltage. I removed the resistor and measured some 20 mV but it decreased rapidly. I connected the resistor again, waited some hours, then i measured almost 200 mV... interesting...

But maybe that's the effect i described above: the cell is absorbing humidity from the air. Because the cell is flat the contact surface (electrolyte to air) is very small so this could take some time.


Unfortunately my time is limited so i have to set priorities, so i will not have time to do hundrets of experiments. But i will continue following this thread. Maybe some interesting effects will be found some day...

[plengo]

Or may be it is indeed free energy those 200 mv. Can you amplify it?


I know there is more to it than just galvanic.


But you're right. Too small of energy. Almost useless, actually monetarily speaking it is a waste of time and money but I am doing because I love it and there nothing wrong with keeping the mind busy and learning new things and of course, having some beautiful lights around the house.


Fausto.

But maybe that's the effect i described above: the cell is absorbing humidity from the air. Because the cell is flat the contact surface (electrolyte to air) is very small so this could take some time.

[Sergh]

Hello friends!
It is strange that the topic of obtaining energy from a neutrino flux is not present on the forum. Maybe I missed something? On the Internet, there is now a massive advertising campaign in this direction. These gentlemen promise to make Pi - electric car, that does not need to be charged.
I hope that the forum members from Germany could tell in more detail what is happening there.
October 8, 2019:
https://youtu.be/vTCNtI3DsQk?t=459

and other info and resource:

https://neutrino-inside.com/#link2

https://neutrino-energy.com/scientific-advisory-board/

https://neutrino-wiki.com/

My current opinion is skeptical.
Neutrinos can pass through planets and stars and not interact with anything. How can they affect the thinnest graphene layer on the foil?

I think that this is closer to this forum topic, "Сrystall cell".
If someone thinks differently, it would be nice to create a separate topic on the forum for "neutrino energy"

[lancaIV]

https://peswiki.com/directory:water-powered-batteries
Really impressive : Larry Kostiuks 2 cm diameter tube : 1/2 Million channels = " tubes in a tube"


https://peswiki.com/directory:batteries
https://phys.org/news/2009-12-digital-quantum-battery-boost-energy.html  " nano vacuum tube"

There are some effects, disclosed in the last 10 years, in Angstroem-layer density relationships  !
For us,without nano-sphere measurement instruments and operating tools by hand,we are only - well equipped - lab visitors !

"billions of (nano- )capacitors" to "billions of ( nano-) MOSFET/capacitor circuits x operation velocity
- here not more pulses/Hz,but "f.l.o.p.s" velocity

floating point operation per second  https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floating_Point_Operations_Per_Second

      Quantum energy process : magnitude and plenitude


To understand lab prototyping in micro-/nano-scale and transducing this " Unikat production process " to mass production machinery :
by same" average" quality,  calculateable lifetime and endconsumer affordable production costs to market price
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/futuristic-high-density-m/
1 myW per circuit output x 1000 circuits work = 1 mW

                                             x 1000000 circuits work = 1 Watt 


                                             x 1000000000 circuits work = 1 KWatt

We had here somebody in the forum whose claimed to have such a solution : Hardcastle/"quenco"



1 nano-full integrated- circuit as nano-drop= " dot" as liquid ink and the 3d roll-/print-on-demand technology


https://www.greenoptimistic.com/thermopower-wave-mit-20100309/  carbon/graphene nano tubes/channel

https://peswiki.com/directory:paull:thermodynamics
matter infrared wave emission

[Sergh]

And what is with Neutrino?