GDS 3 KW generator runs on water

[TinselKoala]

Here's (some of) my input: There is only one thing preventing proper testing of any claim, and that is the behaviour of the claimant. 


The collective effort that Chet mentions can accomplish everything that is necessary for proper testing of just about any claim. That's the easy part. Getting the claimant actually to submit a working device for proper testing... that is another story altogether, and the failure of any particular claimant to submit such a device for testing is itself very informative, in my opinion.

Take, for example the Akula/Ruslan/Stivep devices that allegedly run themselves. Several of them are small, use cheap commonly available components and even have had their schematics presented, and have even been replicated to produce the exact waveforms that were presented by the claimants... yet none of the replications actually "self run". So why do these claimants not take one of these devices that they have built and demonstrated on YT, with the claim that it will self-run, put it in a box and send it off to Chet, or Stefan, or even Sterling A. ? I know why... and so do you.

[TinselKoala]

Now, let me ask a couple of questions. How many "goalpost movements" (rescheduling of test dates or product availability dates for example) should we allow a claimant to make, before we conclude that testing may actually never be allowed to happen? One, two, three, four? If a claimant says he has about ten working units on hand, but still won't present one for testing for months and months after that claim is made, nor will he actually show those units or present his own evidence of testing them, can we reasonably conclude anything from that?

[Nink]

I think I will back off this thread for a while unless something changes and mark this as an unverified claim with no attempt to seek verification.

If something changes I will jump back in again. this may include Patents filed, documents published or if Mr Potter agrees to a test and sets a confirmed date and location so we can all organize travel.  I will also jump back in if generators "powered by water" from GDS start selling especially if they require all or partial payment in advance either directly or indirectly via distributors.

if Mr Potter wants to allow a test as I said I am happy to go with 24 hours notice to any location in North America to be part of a team.

[MarkE]

Mark
honestly I am not interested in any one claim,I am interested in a solution to a long standing  problem .

This subject of this thread is GDS.  I suggest that we keep the discussion here focused on that.

Too few helping hands and too many helping mouths...

we Don't need helping mouths ,we need helping hands .

Just what does that mean Chet?  You have been offered sound advice on how to conduct testing that will yield meaningful results in the very unlikely event that Greg Potter / GDS ever allows any testing.  All available evidence points to Greg Potter holding his hand out for cash and handing back the stuff we scrape off our shoes.

We have solved this problem, now we need to grow the model.

What is the problem?  Is it that you do not like advice or opinion that is correct?

I will investigate a solution with TinselKoala ,if he chooses not to input,


then we shall see what other options there are ?


don't get me wrong Mark ,I am interested in a solution not focusing on yet another example of the problem.
a solution here at this forum ,an open source over unity forum.


respectfully
Chet
ps
I am in no rush ,there is no need,i would just like others here to benefit the same way that OUR group has.
its actually quite wonderful....
and I am not looking to "steal" members or start other websites or money generating venues ,
Could care less about that .AND WON"T be apart of that Nonsense.

You hold out hope that an obvious scam may not be what it obviously is.  I respect that you want to hold out that hope.  I respect that you are willing to let this play out for a long time.  However, there is no reason to to get snippy with other people who see the facts as they are, have accurately predicted what has unfolded and continue to accurately predict what will unfold.  Recognizing a scam for what it is does not create the scam.  It does not suppress inventions that work. It does not prevent honest investigators from looking into unlikely things.  It exposes crooks who prey on people's hopes for something good.  I submit to you that policing out scammers is an important activity that helps prevent honest investigators from being associated with crooks.

[ramset]

TK
to be clear
we are only discussing claims which have allowed access to the Group ,and how they will be treated HERE at this forum.


@ Mark E is correct this discussion does not belong here.


I did send you a PM
thx
Chet