Ufo propu engine, closed loop

[ltseung888]

What are the likely actions from the USA or Chinese Governments to keep the technology a top secret?
1.   Discredit the inventors or researchers
2.   Send in investors or helpers to sabotage
3.   Use National Security as excuse to stop the Research and Development
4.   Hire the inventors or researchers into top secret military institutes
5.   Silence the Inventors including murder
6.     Post false information on the Internet.  Turn the research into a mockery
7.     Send in the debunkers to get the inventors upset
8.     Use scientific roadblocks such as Law of Conservation of Energy

But if the theory is as simple as outlined in reply 1 of this thread, almost any Nation can develop it.  It was like the Internet forty years ago.  Many scientists and engineers could see the potential.  But it required much resources to develop it...

What actions can the Inventors or Researchers take?

1.  Give up
2.  Develop the technology outside USA or China (and their sphere of influence)
3.  Get sufficient resources and develop in secret with support from a friendly government
4.  Open source and continue development on forums such as this one
5.  Have the conviction that scientific truth and progress cannot be stopped
6.  Remove the scientific roadblocks with simple proof of concept experiments
7.  Some will focus on documenting information including false ones
8.  Support each other via conferences etc., knowing that there will be sabotage

My gut feel is that some governments will take on such research (some may be doing it now).  The announcement and demonstration will arouse so much interest that the new paradigm of lead-out energy flying saucer will be impossible to block...

We may need to change some mindsets at the same time.  Some such mindsets include:
1.  A Nation must maintain Military Dominance
2   Some races are superior
3.  The Bible predicts Nuclear Wars and the end of the World
4.  The status Quote must be maintained at all costs for sake of World Stability
5.  The established scientific knowledge and theories are sacred and cannot be wrong.  There cannot be different explanations such as lead-out energy.

[MagnaProp]

I agree with your statement on population control.  China is unlikely to have its rapid economic development without the one child policy.  I came from a family of eight children.  The young ones wore the clothes of the old ones...

And they were harshly criticized for that policy. I was against it also until I really started to see how bad the picture is turning out to be. I read we are already past the breaking point with the worlds population. If we removed a billion people, there would still be to many to stop global warming at its current rate. Humans don't like change so we end up reacting to slowly. What is taking place right now with global warming and the fresh water shortage, in geologic time, is faster than the blink of an eye.

One of the Meaningful Economic Activities is to use Energy more efficiently.  The US model of cars with one driver driving on highways may not be meaningful...

I agree. It's very inefficient. Along with population control we also need vehicle control. A three person house hold may have to do with just two cars, god forbid they use public transportation to get it down to just one car. Soon every city will be like San Francisco or New York where you have no choice but to take public transportation because there are so many people around. I just saw a house in my neighborhood with gallons and gallons of water running down the street off of their soaking lawn as if we aren't in the worst drought ever. People won't change unless forced to and they resist those changes until it's to late.

I have the gut feel that the lead-out energy flying saucer will come out from a totally unexpected Nation first.  The experiments can be done by almost any Nation.

Perhaps India or somewhere. Elon Musk knows this rock is doomed so he'll use it to get to Mars if he can.

[ltseung888]

One of the Meaningful Economic Activities is tolerance.


Hong Kong is an International City with many tourists.  They bring their culture and customs.  Some of these may be different from accepted Chinese customs.


What needs to be accepted?  What needs to be tolerated?  What needs to be rejected?


What can be improved? 

[ltseung888]

One of the Meaningful Economic Activities is tolerance.


Hong Kong is an International City with many tourists.  They bring their culture and customs.  Some of these may be different from accepted Chinese customs.


What needs to be accepted?  What needs to be tolerated?  What needs to be rejected?


What can be improved?

Is it meaningful to accept:
1.  Actions that do not harm others such as guy rights, political demonstrations that block streets, fake handbags, watches, etc.
2.  Actions that will delay or block infrastructure development that will benefit the majority - such as preventing development of new towns, new roads, etc.
3.  Actions that will limit the development potential of others such as limiting the opportunities of the domestic helpers, refugees, etc.
4.  The right to die with dignity such as the very old, the terminally sick, etc.
5.  Challenges to moral, religious or traditional values such as  relationship before marriage, worships via Internet, letting the government take care of the old, etc.
6.  Continued talk of revenge of earlier wars such as the Second World War, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the Middle East Wars etc.


With the new paradigm of lead-out energy flying saucers, there will be new degrees of freedom.  National boundaries will disappear or will become uncontrollable...  What are the new rules?  Who will define these rules?

[ltseung888]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/29/china-abandons-one-child-policy
Tom Phillips in Beijing


Thursday 29 October 2015 14.37

China has scrapped its one-child policy, allowing all couples to have two children for the first time since draconian family planning rules were introduced more than three decades ago.

The announcement followed a four-day Communist party summit in Beijing where China's top leaders debated financial reforms and how to maintain growth at a time of heightened concerns about the economy.


*** What was Meaningful changed.  China can now provide a higher standard of living for a larger population.  All Nations should re-examine what is Meaningful from time to time.


*** When will it be Meaningful for USA and China to disclose the top secret?