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Ufo propu engine, closed loop

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ltseung888

Quote from: guidoc66 on December 22, 2015, 08:54:59 AM
Hello,
simple question: the time base in the dso pictures looks to be 100ms; if one square is 100 ms then the pulse duration should be around 250 ms
Why did you mention 50ms?
thanks
guido

Good Question. 

The waveform represents the full duration of the Pulse.  The duration depends on how long the experimenter holds down the switch and can vary greatly with every attempt.  In the diagram shown, it was about 250ms.  Some experimenters held the switch for more than 500ms.

We need to consider what time interval the magnetic repulsion is most effective.  It is definitely NOT 250ms or 500ms.  I used the time for the magnet to jump 10 cm away from the coil as the guideline.  If the DC current is constantly supplied, the repelling height is around 5cm.  The time for the magnet to jump 10cm (twice the repelling distance of 5 cm) is 50ms or less.  That can be calculated from the free fall equations.

This is one of the most important assumptions in the experiment.  We do not use the full Pulse Time.  We use a "Jump away 10 cm" time.  The use of 10 cm is somewhat arbitrary.  We can use a different number in the analysis.

At present, we are experimenting with different number of jump magnets and different number of turns in the solenoids.  The number 50ms or "Jump away 10cm time" gives overunity across all the experiments.  When we use solenoids of 500 turns and up (and/or 4 or more jumping magnets), we can make even bolder assumptions such as "jump away 20cm time".

Keep such good questions coming...
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

Picture justifying the use of "jump away height of 10cm".
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

ltseung888

More on the interaction of the constant Gravitational Force Fg and the rapidly decreasing magnetic force Fm.

1.  Fg is always downwards.
2.  Fm is treated as upwards in this experiment.
3.  Fm is greatest at Position P1.  Fm is definitely greater than Fg so that the magnet jumps up.
4.  The magnet will increase velocity from 0 (rest position) at Position P1.  If we assume the repulsion force varies inversely as the square of the distance, the Force Fm will decrease rapidly.  However, we should think in terms of the magnetic flux or magnetic lines of force.  That may decrease less rapidly.
5.  If Fm = Fg at P3 position (approximately 5cm),  Can we assume that after another 5 cm, Fm will further decrease.  The decrease will make the passing of electric energy to magnetic energy and then mechanical energy insignificant.
6.  Even if the switch is pressed down allowing current to flow through, the actual energy transferred to magnetic and mechanical energy is small.

Think along those lines and I am happy to hear comments.
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.

guidoc66

thanks for the explanations
wouldn't be easier to make the pulse adjustable? a 555 driving a transistor or even simpler, several reed switches in parallel, at different heights (up to were you want the pulse to be on) driving a relay to the coil (just trowing ideas).
As you are spotting in your last posts, the 10cm is an important assumption but also the free fall one is.
The acceleration imparted on the mass during the 10 cm trip is not even constant and its average is not trivial while the free fall time assumes  this is 9.81 m/s2 .
What we know is that at 5cm the Accel of that given mass is equal to 9.81 m/s2 as the two forces are balanced; below 5 cm the acceler. is greater and above is lower.
In other words
Accel = MagneticForce / Mass = g     @ 5cm height

ltseung888

Quote from: guidoc66 on December 23, 2015, 09:50:07 AM
thanks for the explanations
wouldn't be easier to make the pulse adjustable? a 555 driving a transistor or even simpler, several reed switches in parallel, at different heights (up to were you want the pulse to be on) driving a relay to the coil (just trowing ideas).
As you are spotting in your last posts, the 10cm is an important assumption but also the free fall one is.
The acceleration imparted on the mass during the 10 cm trip is not even constant and its average is not trivial while the free fall time assumes  this is 9.81 m/s2 .
What we know is that at 5cm the Accel of that given mass is equal to 9.81 m/s2 as the two forces are balanced; below 5 cm the acceler. is greater and above is lower.
In other words
Accel = MagneticForce / Mass = g     @ 5cm height
@guidoc66

You are correct. One of the research direction is controlling the timing of the pulse.  If we can adjust the Pulse time from 20ms to 200ms, (in your words - a 555 driving a transistor) we can detect whether we get overunity.  Can the small pulse time provide the electrical energy (then convert to magnetic and mechanical) to provide overunity results?

This bring us to the workings of the 225 HP Pulse Motor.  It requires starting the pulse at the "exact time" and then turn off the pulse as soon as the magnetic repulsion finishes its effective range (in ms or less?).

(One possible control mechanism is via laser detection.)

If the 225 HP Pulse Motor (and possibly other Pulse Motors) works, the design in reply 1 of this thread will work.  That lead-out energy flying saucer design is worth looking into.

UFOs are flying.  Many are made in USA or China.  Now, we understand the Physics behind their workings.  The first simple proof-of-concept experiment seems to indicate its validity...

Divine Wine is for all to share...  Love Thy Enemies...
Compressible Fluids are Mechanical Energy Carriers. Air is not a fuel but is an energy carrier. (See reply 1097)
Gravitational or Electron Motion Energy can be Lead Out via oscillation, vibration, rotation or flux change systems.  We need to apply pulse force (Lee-Tseung Pulls) at the right time. (See reply 1106 and 2621)
1150 describes the Flying Saucer.  This will provide incredible prosperity.  Beware of the potential destructive powers.