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The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )

Started by syairchairun, November 09, 2014, 09:05:00 AM

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Jimboot

Quote from: TinselKoala on December 08, 2014, 09:46:10 PM
I'm standing in my back yard spraying water around with my garden hose. I have a flowmeter attached to the hose and I make a reading. Then you come along with a bucket labelled "output" and run through the yard catching water from the spray in your bucket. Look! There is no change in my flowmeter reading!

A successful test of the Overunity Garden Hose! Very encouraging.
You have a problem with me getting the biggest most efficient bucket?

thngr

now let us not assume something about what the energy is or gravity is, these have not been answered questions yet. but we know what amper's law or lenz law or faraday law are. Couldn't we replicate syair's device by bicycle rim like bedini school girl motor.


I'm thinkering about wheels of old scooter of mine rusting in my garden. rims are aluminum (non magnetic) as a holder of laminated steel bars. I have also many transformers like micro wave oven's.some hardboard needed. Lathe can also be used to have smaller air gap in between. (this sunday to work)

vince

What to do???
This forum is not for the sensitive.  Many here are very intelligent and experienced and somewhat intimidating to others that may not be as well versed in some of these topics. There in lies the dilema,do we post our feeble experiments and share our poor crafstmanship and builds or do we sit back and let the experts debate the topic.  I must say that I agree that we should never make claims with no compelling proof or make outlandish statements that make us us just look silly.
In my case here I made an attempt at replicating a device and I know it is not efficient and has many faults. I did not make ANY claims only shared my observations and "asked for input". Typically we get all kinds of feedback and of course the sarcasm. 
Makes you wonder if it is worth even participating in some of these discussions!

Vince

lumen

If you think of lenz as the reverse field direction of the output coil it is easy to see that by applying power to the output coil and checking how it affects the rotor one can determine how well your device is getting around the lenz drag.
Of course this doesn't help with eddy current drag in the rest of the device.

TK's analogy is close, you are using huge amounts of energy to magnetize the iron rotor by spinning it by those magnets. Then moving the iron by the coil to magnetize it's core takes even more energy.
When the coil is shorted, it prevents some iron in the coil and rotor from becoming fully magnetized and thus reduces some waste load on the rotor.

Vince,  you do get points for building devices, many just whine and never build anything so they fail before they start.



T-1000

Quote from: Mister Caribbean Roots on December 09, 2014, 01:43:26 PM
Eddy curents can be your best friend sometimes, especially when they help you achieve speed under load... ;) :o ;D
If your goal is RPM then yes, if the goal is to get maximum induction as possible without breaking spin momentum then no... ;)

Quote from: Mister Caribbean Roots on December 09, 2014, 01:43:26 PM
It is "it" that help one get the Lenz Delayed Effect so that the generator coil start to help out the drive side at a specific rpm instead of dragging it down... ;)
Why the goal was to delay Lenz force in first place? Due opposition to movement which is being delayed?

If to attack problem cause the Lenz force / induced magnetic force has to be manipulated in a way where it neutralizes itself over full cycle. And this can be done easily by inducing current in coil 2 times over single passage near coil... The holy grail is in the pudding :) And this happen when moving iron core becomes alternating magnet due magnetic polarity flipping over 2 magnetic poles very close to to the coil core. This what I did show in my fundamental design and was in E. Leedskalnin generator...