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The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )

Started by syairchairun, November 09, 2014, 09:05:00 AM

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NoBull

Quote from: MileHigh on December 12, 2014, 07:53:43 AM
NoBull:
This is not the case.  Yourself, and others in this thread, seem to be alluding to various kinds of "fringe" angles to various things when there really aren't any.  Ferromagnetic materials consist of nothing more than a bunch of little magnets that obey the same laws and act in exactly the same way as big magnets.  That's the beauty of it.
I am not alluding anything like that.  My point was that ferromagnetic materials are not as easy to describe as a coil's response to a varying magnetic flux.  Good luck analyzing the Gary motor with the just the Faraday's law and Lenz's law.

Could you even prove with these laws, that the flux enclosed by a closed superconducting loop remains constant and independent of any external flux, despite that this problem does not even involve any ferromagnetic materials ?

Ferromagnetic phenomena such as the BH curve, magnetostriction, Villiari effect, magnetoacoustics, VRM, Curie temp., μ-f curves, magnetocalorics, modulation of permeability by external E fields, etc... require a whole set of more complex tools (laws).

Also, remember that a lack of proof of existence is not a proof of nonexistence.

Jimboot

Quote from: thngr on December 12, 2014, 08:32:05 AM

there is no way to generate in this consept; may be volts but not amperes! you must find a core at least four poles. But do it who knows if we will learn some thing.
That's not true I can light a bulb with two poles. [size=78%]http://youtu.be/y3kbDQuoERA[/size]


What lumen will need to do though is place the coils perpendicular to the rotor though to maximize up. The better design is the one Cadman and syair have shown where the steel passes between the coil an mag..still try it lumen but get an extra coil to measure what is coming out the front. It will be double or triple what you get off the sides in that rotor.

FatBird

Nice Motor Prototype & setup.  Thanks for sharing Jim.
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Jimboot

I caught up with t1000 and grum via video and it was great to put a person behind t he handle . I think it's too easy sometimes to take cheap shots at each other when all we see is a username. I just want to thank everyone for their contribution.  Just keep in mind there are new people here who don't know there are really smart fantastic people behind those usernames. All they read is what we publish.

lumen

Quote from: thngr on December 12, 2014, 08:32:05 AM

there is no way to generate in this consept; may be volts but not amperes! you must find a core at least four poles. But do it who knows if we will learn some thing.

Hi thngr
The idea is to have a small magnetic loop contained within the core of the coil. This loop induces no current in the coil so there is no lenz while the loop is contained.
As the rotor turns the loop will break into two loops, one still within the coil core and the other through the rotor.
When the loop expands it will cross the conductors and inducing current and lenz will push back but not on the rotor.
As the rotor turns further, the loop will be shorted back again to a small loop within the coils core.

Because the magnetic loop originates from within the coils core, lenz from current in the coil cannot influence the objects in the new path because it has already taken place before the magnetic loop reaches the controlling core.
Just another idea to test.